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Car Drives Onto Sidewalk, Kills 5-Year-Old Girl

A car struck a family on Central Avenue on Labor Day afternoon, killing a 5-year-old Highland Park resident and injuring her mother and two brothers in what Mayor Nancy Rotering is calling 'a parent's worst nightmare.'

 

A 5-year-old was killed when a vehicle drove onto a sidewalk as she was walking with her mother and two brothers on Central Avenue in Highland Park on Monday afternoon.

The girl was with her 25-year-old mother and her 4-year-old and 2-year-old brothers, all of whom were also injured when a car jumped the curb on the north side of the 700 block of Central Avenue and plowed into them, according to a news release issued by the Highland Park Police Department.

Five-year-old Jaclyn Santos-Sacramento was taken to Evanston Hospital, where she was pronounced dead at 5 p.m. She lived in the 900 block of Deerfield Road, according to Highland Park News. Her brothers and mother were taken to Highland Park Hospital. The boys are expected to be treated and released, while her mother, Modest Sacramento-Jimenez, remains in "fair but stable" condition, reports The Highland Park News.

The car that struck her and her brothers and mother was a Lexus coupe, according to the Chicago Tribune. It was being driven by a female 18-year-old Highland Park resident, who was also treated and released at Highland Park Hospital. No charges have been filed as of Monday evening, according to the Highland Park News.

A Highland Park resident told The Chicago Tribune that Sacramento's older brother pulled his younger brother to the bushes when paramedics arrived so he wouldn't see them work to revive their sister. A makeshift memorial was set up at the scene.

“Our hearts to go out to everyone involved,” Highland Park Mayor Nancy Rotering said in a statement. “This accident is a parent’s worst nightmare and has created a devastating loss.”

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Related Topics: Car Crash, Central Avenue, and Nancy Rotering

Life is Good

7:16 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Very sad... to lose a child that young. I hope that 18 year old wasn't texting.

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BonB

7:21 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I hope the city organizes a fund raiser for the family.

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DD

1:05 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Great Idea
BonB I hope so too

Standards

7:28 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

This is a tragedy on many levels. What disturbs me is an 18 year old driving a $100k car which is obviously more car tHan an 18 year old inexperienced driver can handle. I'm assuming no charges yet pending is for a reason.

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Evan Kane

8:09 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

This is fallacious logic. There is no correlation between the value of a car and how difficult it is to drive.
-Logic Cop

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skoorb

8:10 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

What does the type of car have to do with this?

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Andrew

11:41 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

The type of car, oddly, has everything to do with it as evidenced by the following study and by simply driving around Highland Park and watching how people in luxury cars (particularly black luxury vehicles and SUVs) conduct themselves behind the wheel:

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/27/science/la-sci-0228-greed-20120228

"People driving expensive cars were more likely than other motorists to cut off drivers and pedestrians at a four-way-stop intersection in the San Francisco Bay Area, UC Berkeley researchers observed....people behind the wheels of the priciest cars were four times as likely as drivers of the least expensive cars to enter the intersection when they didn't have the right of way. The discrepancy was even greater when it came to a pedestrian trying to exercise a right of way."

Last year, another child was struck in downtown HP by another of our infamous drivers:

http://highlandpark.patch.com/articles/boy-hit-by-vehicle-on-central-avenue

It's time for some serious enforcement of traffic laws in HP. No matter what level of taxpayer the driver appears to be or who they know, they MUST be ticketed. The police should give extra attention to the more expensive cars as the data and simple observation downtown demonstrate.

That said, we have NO IDEA what caused this particular teenager to drive in this erratic manner, so we need to withhold judgment till all the facts are in.

This is a horrific tragedy. My prayers are with both families.

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Standards

12:56 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

These expensive cars are HIGH PERFORMANCE Cars. They have way too much power and special handling equipment that an inexperienced driver wouldn't be able to understand at 18 years old. That is what the type of car has to do with it.

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Evan Kane

1:11 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Standards,

I am curious what special handling characteristics expensive cars have? Are you referring to anti-lock brakes, traction control, collision avoidance systems, rear-view cameras?

Which car is most appropriate for an 18 year old, the 263-hp Mazda, MSRP $25,662 or the 227-hp Volvo at $31,850?

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Standards

1:28 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Neither Evan Kane, if you read my other posts I mention that this particular car's value, but there are others for less money just as powerful and that my problem is with giving any 18 year old a high performance car to drive. This particular car had 416 hp, torque of 371 lb/ft at 5,200, 0-60 acceleration at 4.6 seconds (which is probably part of this problem), the car has double wishbone suspension with high mount upper arms, Electronic Power Steering, 8 speed sport direct shift auto transmission with paddle shifters. Yes, I know this car.

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Doesnt matter

4:17 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Evan kane you are an absolute moron. And Standards, i agree with everything you're saying.

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Standards

5:21 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

thank you "doesn't matter". Some people just like to get people riled up on these threads. A community can't have a discussion without someone trying to be disingenuous.

HOLLY SIGMAN

7:30 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I never felt HP was a good area to "grow old" in. Crossing the streets in downtown HP is most unpleasant. Fast cars,who's going to cross the intersection first,and jockeying for the closest parking spots all contribute to this.Maybe they should consider paving some of the streets in the shopping area. Make it a place to linger and walk around.Then they can beef up the parking outside the shopping areas.Maybe people would spend more time and dollars shopping.

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Alexa Raye

8:07 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Unfortuately, that would just create havoc on the roads outside the shopping area. Not fixing the problem, just moving it. They should have crossing guards standing on platforms in the middle of the streets directing traffic manually like they do in Hong Kong.
That not withstanding, this is a terrible tragedy on all levels. I feel horrible for the Santos family as well as for the driver and his/her family b/c they will have to live with this for the rest of their life as well. It is just a terrible tragedy.

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Evan Kane

8:19 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

The probability of this tragedy happening is extremely low. You are seeking a solution to a problem that really doesn't exist. There is no data to support that Highland Park is any more or less dangerous to walk in than any other suburb.
-Logic Cop

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Andrew

10:08 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I agree 100%! See below, where my reply to "what does the type of car have to do with this" was posted. They don't even need to "beef up" the parking. There's plenty. People need to learn to walk a block to get to the store they're going to. For all the time people spend working out, an extra block walk shouldn't be beyond their abilities. If anything, reserve the downtown street parking for seniors, pregnant or new mothers and the disabled.

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Rich M

11:01 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Not good area to grow old in? Ever try crossing the street in most parts of Chicago itself? It's WAY worse! Highland Park is super safe by comparison. There should be NO problem crossing the streets. The person walking has the right of way - period. Just start walking and the cars will wait. If they don't, let them hit you and you'll get to sue them. It's not that bad.

If you want a good place to grow old, try Sun City or another one of those retirement communities. One thing they could try (but I don't see the spoiled people going for it) is block off the streets in the downtown and MAKE people walk everywhere (like many European towns). Maybe that'll solve your grow old solution when it comes to crossing the streets.

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Andrew

11:32 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Rich you say, " There should be NO problem crossing the streets. The person walking has the right of way - period. Just start walking and the cars will wait. If they don't, let them hit you and you'll get to sue them. It's not that bad."

1. You've obviously never watched the children without umbrellas standing in the rain trying to cross Elm at St. John's after school. They're school children. In the rain. Without umbrellas. And yet, the drivers go one after another as quick as they can, often not waiting their turn, with wet children in plain site. These are the children of our own community and we don't stop for them. So....there is a problem crossing the streets.

2. Just cross and let them hit you? They will, they have and the results are way beyond anything a lawsuit can repair.

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Rich M

12:00 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Andrew - I went to Northwood, I could care less about Elm Place! But seriously, I am not talking about that area, I'm talking about the downtown business district. It's not part of this discussion. Sheridan Rd, if that's what you are referring to should probably have a stop sign at Elm Place. But in my opinion most junior high students are not little school children as you make them out to be. Many of them smoke, do drugs, have sex, make pipe bombs, vandalise, and are one step away from high school. They know what they are doing, so this whole thing about them being helpless in the rain like they are 6 year olds is flat out wrong. If you had posted that about me and my friends when I was in junior high decades ago we would have laughed you off. We were fine. We crossed the street when it was time (usually jumping out, causing the car to slam on the brakes and we laughed), that's all there is to it! Good times!

As to getting hit by a car, yeah, in the downtown area at the crosswalks, how fast can they be going to really hurt you? Of course, I don't mean it literally for everyone if they are uncomfortable about it, but personally I do challenge people to hit me. I'm a big guy, and it's my right of way to walk anytime over a car in the cross walk (except on Central at Sheridan going west (on the north side of street) and north/south on First St at Elm Place). If I let them drive as they wish then the terrorists win! ;) So it's not gonna happen. I'm walking.

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Standards

1:08 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Let the car hit you and sue them? How fast could they possibly be going to hurt you bad enough? Did you read that a 5 year old child died when the car hit them as they walked on the SIDEWALK??? They were not even crossing a street. So Andrew, this family was doing exactly what you suggested, WALKING from their home on on Deerfield Road on the SIDEWALK on a beautiful summer day and look what happened. This accident happened west of Green Bay, near where VIllage Set was. Did you read that a 5 year old child died when the car hit them as they walked on the SIDEWALK??? They were not even crossing a street. So Andrew, this family was doing exactly what you suggested, WALKING from their home on on Deerfield Road on the SIDEWALK on a beautiful summer day and look what happened. Your statement is contradictory. This accident happened near where the VIllage Set used to be, not in Central Downtown Highland Park. THey showed it on the news this morning, the car is smashed in that building. Apparently the child was under the car, taken to a Trauma Center in Evanston as her injuries were that bad, and she was pronounced dead.

Charges are pending due to results of a ToxScreen if i had to guess, but I don't know. Police withhold charges initially until they are certain as from what I understand its best they charge her correctly initially then have to go back and re-file without enough information.

Seriously people, are you reading what you wrote?

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Longtime HP Resident

10:41 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Holly:

The proof is in the pudding. I do not know of any other town that requires four crossing guards at an intersection and this is on the weekend not even necessarily for children. Many people think the stop sign is just a suggestion. And their children have learned that attitude.

skoorb

8:09 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

The speed limit was changed in this exact area about 25 years ago when a developmentally disabled man - I believe his name was Max - was hit and killed. So sad to see this happen in almost the exact same place....condolences to the family....

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HOLLY SIGMAN

8:27 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Mr Kane- I didn't say crossing the streets in HP are more or less dangerous than any other suburbs. It's attitudes and actions I witness as I drive and walk in downtown HP. I've lived here since 1991.I've felt that same way in 1991 as I do now.As a real estate person I can understand your perspective.

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Evan Kane

8:37 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I'm Sorry Holly I must have misunderstood you. If you don't think Highland Park streets are more dangerous why did you suggest the the city "should consider paving some of the streets in the shopping area. Make it a place to linger and walk around.Then they can beef up the parking outside the shopping areas."?

I also don't see how your parking plan would alter peoples attitudes and actions.

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HOLLY SIGMAN

8:45 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

It wouldn't change peoples attitudes or driving behaviors.It would move the cars away from the shoppers.Just my opinion.

David Levinson

9:37 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I share the sentiment about making downtown pedestrian-only. Move the traffic to the surrounding streets to lower the congestion and remove the bottleneck effect.

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Evan Kane

10:26 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Besides the obvious, that all a mall would do is move the bottleneck and increase congestion on streets that are not presently congested, you might want to read this case study on pedestrian malls: http://www.indydt.com/Pedestrian_and_Transit_Malls_Study.pdf

-Logic Cop

Andy

9:45 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

No charges yet??? WTF? Morew than one account I've read/heard says the girl behind the wheel was intoxicated on something. This could mean trouble for the community if this girl walks and there are no answers on this front.

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Rich M

11:03 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I bet you a million dollars this girl (if she is a HP resident and Daddy is rich) will get nothing more than probation. Watch.

forest barbieri

9:50 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Extremely sad and unfortunate. I do not know how to describe such a tragic loss and as a parent, I cannot even imagine such a thing happening as we all walk around HP with our families. My heart and thoughts go out to the family.

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Nancy

9:52 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Have charges been filed yet? She is 18 years old and by law is an adult, not surprised that HP is pulling this again. I have been living in HP since the late 80's and think it is a great place to live and what has happened is horrible since that could have been any resident in HP, it appears the family was just enjoying there day. If what witnesses are saying is true and that she was in fact intoxicated she should have been arrested for driving under the influence.

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DD

9:58 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

This horrible accident didn't happen in the
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Andrew

10:13 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

The papers say 700 block of Central. Do you have better information? If so, let us know.

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Gordon Kenmuir

11:12 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I saw the vehicle it was actually right where the gym on Central is, where the Sunset Food overflow parking is. So west of Greenbay and the main shopping area.

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DD

1:02 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

@ Andrew 700 block is not downtown HP

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Standards

1:11 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

It happened West of Green Bay near the old Village Set. No where near Central Downtown. The family was on the sidewalk, not crossing the street.

Andrew

10:02 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

The type of car, oddly, has everything to do with it as evidenced by the following study and by simply driving around Highland Park and watching how people in luxury cars (particularly black luxury vehicles and SUVs) conduct themselves behind the wheel:

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/27/science/la-sci-0228-greed-20120228

"People driving expensive cars were more likely than other motorists to cut off drivers and pedestrians at a four-way-stop intersection in the San Francisco Bay Area, UC Berkeley researchers observed....people behind the wheels of the priciest cars were four times as likely as drivers of the least expensive cars to enter the intersection when they didn't have the right of way. The discrepancy was even greater when it came to a pedestrian trying to exercise a right of way."

Last year, another child was struck in downtown HP by another of our infamous drivers:

http://highlandpark.patch.com/articles/boy-hit-by-vehicle-on-central-avenue

It's time for some serious enforcement of traffic laws in HP. No matter what level of taxpayer the driver appears to be or who they know, they MUST be ticketed. The police should give extra attention to the more expensive cars as the data and simple observation downtown demonstrate.

That said, we have NO IDEA what caused this particular teenager to drive in this erratic manner, so we need to withhold judgment till all the facts are in.

This is a horrific tragedy. My prayers are with both families.

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Evan Kane

10:19 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Your logical fallacy is: http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/false-cause
Additionally you are misinterpreting this particular study which showed a correlation between a persons income and a higher likelihood to behave immorally. One can also easily say from this study that people who are immoral drive more expensive cars or people who are rich are more likely to be immoral. The one thing that really can't be concluded from the study is that driving an expensive car makes you a bad driver.

You might also want to test your statement that "The police should give extra attention to the more expensive cars" by replacing more expensive cars with other descriptors before thinking this a fair and effective policy.

-Logic Cop

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Andrew

10:40 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

The fact remains, Mr. Kane, that there is a correlation. It doesn't mean cause, it does mean correlation. You can parse the facts any way you want, but they are facts and they can be confirmed by study or by attempting to drive or walk on any day of the week in downtown Highland Park.

What your intellectual games do, unfortunately, is distract from the facts and the problem. Which is that there are drivers in Highland Park who drive too aggressively and inconsiderately, often flouting traffic laws. And while there are drivers of all profiles who do this, drivers of luxury vehicles are more likely to be behind the wheel.

It needs to be addressed. Not parsed like some hypothetical issue in a debate or logic class.

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Evan Kane

12:38 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Bad form Andrew, you committed tu quoque. (http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque) We can go no further.

jant3

10:17 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Downtown Highland Park seems to be a dangerous place to be a pedestrian. I have worked and lived in the area for a while now and I have seen so many close calls and have almost been hit myself just crossing the street. It seems that people driving through highland park are very distracted and unaware of their surroundings. Just the summer before a boy was hit by a car on his bike on Central & Second street, just one block east. My prayers go out to the family of this tragedy.

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Evan Kane

10:21 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Do you have any date to support that Highland Park is more or less dangerous than any other suburb to be a pedestrian? Your loggical fallacy is: http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

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Andrew

10:49 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Again, I will second this comment. I've lived and driven multiple years in various cities throughout the country. Downtown Chicago, Atlanta, Boston (often ranked worst drivers in national opinion surveys), Los Angeles and Connecticut.

I have NEVER witnessed the level of me-first, not-watching-cause-I'm-talking, traffic-signs-mean-nothing type of driving that I see in HP. And I did, even before the study was released, notice a correlation between the most egregious driving behavior and the dollar value of the car.

I have actually warned strangers about driving in Highland Park for years.

Not data. Observation. Years of it. Astonished by what I see. We don't all have time to drop everything and conduct peer reviewed studies to confirm what our eyes and experience are stating plainly for us.

jant3

10:36 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Dear Mr.Kane,

I am only basing my data off of my observation and not to any scientific standards. I have lived in 2 other towns on the north shore over the last 20 years and have not seen the same driving characteristics in those towns. I am glad you asked me for data, here is an article written based off observation last year in downtown HP. http://highlandpark.patch.com/articles/highland-parks-most-nefarious-intersection

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Evan Kane

12:45 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Dear jant3,

If your personal observation differs from my personal observation how do we decide which observation lies closer to the state of things as they actually exist?

It's often much easier for people to believe someones testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum. Quantitative scientific measures are almost always more accurate than personal perceptions and experiences, but our inclination is to believe that which is tangible to us, and/or the word of someone we trust over a more 'abstract' statistical reality.

Example: Jason said that that was all cool and everything, but his grandfather smoked, like, 30 cigarettes a day and lived until 97 - so don't believe everything you read about meta analyses of methodologically sound studies showing proven causal relationships.

The link you provide is an opinion piece that is based solely on anecdotal evidence so it is really difficult to use it to help form a logical belief.

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Ed Brill

2:19 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

It is an opinion column, but it's based on an hour's actual observation of traffic issues. That's not anecdotal, that's factual.

TJ Wheeler

10:37 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Obviously those little reminders on the back of the stop signs all over the city that say "Character Counts" doesn't mean much to those who honk all the time, roll though stop signs, avoid the "right of way" rules, don't let pedestrians cross the street, unnecessarily cut people off, can't park normally, park in the handicap spots even though there is no handicap placard, run the stop lights because they don't care about the photo fine (or being pulled over). Highland Park has become one of the worst places to drive on the North Shore. I'm embarrassed live in this town because the drivers (and people in general) think they rule the road. They need to learn how to follow the rules of the road. My kid is growing up here watching this happen, this 18 year old probably grew up watching it happen. Character also Counts when you as a parent let your kid drive that $100k car, the Lexus, BMW, Mercedes, whatever..... these kids just grow up not caring about others and only themselves. Sorry to be so harsh, but it's true. I'm not going to pass too much judgment about this particular accident as the facts are not released yet, except it was horrible and should never happen again. City counsel should considering making Central one way going East with more traffic going on Laurel bypassing the train crossings on Central and Elm.

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Rich M

11:06 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I agree with most of your posts and the one way idea is interesting. Maybe use Elm Place going one way west. I have one word for you about the kids driving - TEXTING.

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christine peschier

11:23 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Couldn't agree with you more. Well said.

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Standards

1:13 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Its unlikely an 18 year old is drunk at 2:30pm, but who knows, we will find out soon enough. I'm guessing texting or she dropped her phone and was trying to fish it off the floor........

I agree parents should not be allowing their kids to drive big expensive high performance cars at 18 or even 20. What's wrong with a normal car, it gets you around just as good and gives a kid something to strive for later. Starting out driving the best - where do you go from there?

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Bryce Robertson

2:33 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Just going to pop a comment in here about all the ridiculousness about correlations between driving an expensive car and being a bad driver... I know plenty of people my age (in that 18-20 range) who drive beaters that they got for less than $5K - and they text, smoke, drink, speed, blow through stop signs, etc... just as much, if not more than those with "expensive" cars. Generally when I drive, I am driving a car that retails above $50K, and I would argue that I'm a very safe and careful driver. I care about the safety of myself and others. If anything, driving a sports car makes me a SAFER driver, as I have much more finite control over what my car does. I drive a Ford Focus Zipcar at school, and have had much trouble adjusting because the car has no "touch points" per-se on the accelerator and brake. It seems to have two modes: stopped and moving forward. The cars I drive at home don't have this issue - while one can jump 0-60 in about 6 seconds, I can control that car better than any other I've ever driven.

I have no idea what caused this accident - for all we know, the car lost control, the brakes failed, etc. So let's stop the speculation, thinking that just because she was 18 she must have been drunk, high, texting, searching for her phone... and wait until the investigation is complete.

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Steve S.

4:26 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

"It is unlikely that an 18 year old is drunk at 2:30pm" Actually, I would argue that this would be highly likely, especially on a holiday weekend, and a day off from school.

forest barbieri

11:02 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I am focused on the sudden and avoidable loss of a 5 year old child. That is an unbelievable tragedy. I do not know the specifics of the accident but I am sure that it will be investigated and dealt with according to the law. That does not bring this child back to her parents nor does it negate what this young driver's family is likely going through! Everyone loses in this tragic event and none more than the parents of the deceased little girl!

I do not believe the cost or make of a vehicle has any correlation to "Character Counts" and indeed I would believe a Lexus, BMW or Mercedes would be a safe and logical choice if affordable or available. I would want my daughter driving in a vehicle that would help protect her safety relative to other drivers on the road. I will also ensure that she is fully aware of this tragedy to better understand the tremendous responsibility that comes with driving a vehicle.

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Standards

1:16 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

As i repeat, this car was a high performance car, and most high performance cars cost about $100k with big engines, special handling packages, they are cars you drive when you have more experience. I did not mean to allude it was the cost of the car that the girl should not have been driving, it was the power and high performance aspect. At 18 you do not need to be driving something you could take on the Autobahn. Driving something of this caliber takes experience you can't buy for an 18 year old.

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Bryce Robertson

2:35 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Standards - take a look at my reply above. There are many adults who should not be allowed to drive sports cars just as there are many teenagers who have the driving skills and reaction time to drive the same. A V8 handles no differently to the driver than a V6 if that driver knows how to use it.

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Doesnt matter

4:23 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Bryce, you are an idiot. A V8 and a V6 are completely different things. Try going from a huge SUV with a V6 to a Corvette with a V8, tell me if you notice a difference.

Also, every post makes you sound like a spoiled brat. Have fun with your chick 50,000$ car.

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Bryce Robertson

4:46 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Doesnt matter:

First off, calling two fellow commenters "idiots" and one a "moron" doesn't help your credibility on Patch, nor does it make you seem more intelligent than any of us. If you had read my post carefully, I was comparing apples to apples. Sure, a V6 SUV will be much harder to handle than a V8 Corvette, but that's not because of the engine size, it's due to the car's weight. Let's go with the most popular V6 SUV in HP - an Acura MDX. It weighs approx. 4700 pounds. The new Corvette? 3200. That's a 1500 pound difference, and the MDX is a pretty small SUV. The older V6 Escalades ran about 5500 pounds. That's a lot more weight you're throwing around. My car that I was referring to runs 3100 pounds. Nearly half the size of an Escalade. I've also driven a car with a V6 and similar dimensions, and I notice a small difference, but attribute that to the difference between car makes.

Long story short - yes, obviously, I notice a difference. Come to think of it, our other car is an SUV with a V6. And yep, there's a massive difference - in turning, accelerating, etc... - all due to the car's weight. So before you go ahead and call someone an idiot, or a moron, check your facts. Thanks.

Allison G

11:04 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

This is so tragic for everyone involved. I drove by the accident (which was just west of Sunset foods on Central) but didn't see what happened, just multiple police cars and people. I have stopped texting while driving and especially in HP, you have to give full attention at the stop signs because people are so aggressive about taking their turn. It really has been ridiculous for years!

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BRUCE NATHANSON

11:09 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Re: Charging the driver. It may take 24 hours to sort of the details of the accident, but rest assured that charges will be brought......Lake County States Attorney will not allow H.P.P.D. to dismiss this accident.

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Grace Juarez

11:16 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

This is tragic for the families involved. My condolences go out to this young mother and family. I don't understand how this young adult is sitting at home waiting for charges. REALLY?! If, it would've been an African American or Latino rest a sure that this individual would be sitting in jail pending charges. This whole situation is sad and I pray that this young mother gets justice.

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christine peschier

11:20 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

You're crazy if you don't think that Highland Park is a dangerous place to be a pedestrian. Come on! We've all seen the close calls and near misses. I have family all up and down the north shore and they can't believe how crazy the drivers are here. It's embarrassing. This is such a tragedy and something must be done to make it safer for pedestrians.

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TJ Wheeler

2:52 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

methinks Evan is too tied up into his statistical analysis and behavioral science reasoning so he has to attack everyone's logical fallacies instead of listening to our opinions.

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Doesnt matter

4:24 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Evan, shut up, you are not a logic cop, you are an idiot. Highland park is a very dangerous place with corrupt police.

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seeya

5:53 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012

Agreed.^ I lived in HP until I could no longer tolerate it. (35 years with a few off for college etc.) I have NEVER in my life witnessed a more self-centered disgustingly entitled community in my life. Have any of you had visitors? Everyone who ever visited me was blown away by the attitudes of many of the residents. Terrible driving is only one example. Thank goodness I no longer have to deal with this vipers nest of a community. Good riddance.
So sad to hear that these selfish behaviors and me first addict uses have led to the death of a child. :(

Andrew

11:22 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Another thought towards addressing this situation: I lived in a community where the local police would do "stings" periodically. One officer would dress in plain clothes and just attempt to cross the street for an entire day. Any car that didn't yield to him was ticketed by other officers in uniform down the road. After they did this twice, they didn't have to do it again for years.

We cannot undo this tragedy.

Let's at least honor and remember this girl and her family by DOING SOMETHING to make sure this never happens again.

If we continue to passively sit on our hands while the egregious driving in HP goes unchecked, we are all to blame in this.

Change the roads. Change the enforcement policy. Up the fines. It is already "too late." We can't delay action.

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seeya

5:57 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012

My last sentence was meant to read, "so sad that these selfish behaviors and me-first attitudes..." auto-correct :/

Marine Sniper

11:25 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I can only see this as a completely avoidable "accident". The driving conditions were presumably "ideal". Dry pavement, no snow, no visible obstructions on or in road, so what went wrong? No report of alcohol, marijuana, prescription or non-prescription "drugs". Again, what went wrong? How could she have so uncontrollably veered onto the sidewalk? What went so terribly wrong?
I have to say this. I truly believe she was texting.
---Semper Fi!

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ppierce

12:35 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

texting, had to of been. i think they check cell phone records to deterimne if drivers were texting during the time of the accident.

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DD

1:04 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Lets wait and give a chance to the HP Police to finish investigation

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Standards

1:18 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

She could have dropped her phone or other object and bent over to find whatever it was.....or maybe she had a seizure? We don't know until we know.

Allison G

12:09 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Can I add one more thing? It sounds as though people did see this car driving erratically, but how many of us swerve out of the way when people texting or going too slow/too fast almost careen into our cars? HP is the WORST suburb for people rushing while driving.

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Jojo

12:21 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Sad how charges have not been filed nor has the adult's name released!! Once again HP Police lets the community down. We cant even walk with our children on the side walk because young drivers are too busy texting or under the influence.

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Steve S.

2:06 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

It is interesting how her name has not been mentioned when the two junveniles who were arrested for robbery had their names printed immediately.

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Doesnt matter

4:28 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Steve S. I completely agree with you. Highland park has priorities, and if the victim isn't rich them the police don't care. Also, the fact that she is a minority makes them not care even less. Corruption is all over Illinois.

ppierce

12:21 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Uh, any particular reason the girl was taken to Evanston Hospital when HP Hospital was 30 seconds away? Could that have saved her life?

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jant3

12:46 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

As a former EMT I can tell you that HP hospital is not a Level 1 trauma center so they do not have all the same emergency staff on duty. Evanston is a Level 1 trauma center so they are fully staffed and have all the resources and capabilities to aid someone who is in critical condition. The time it takes for the emts/paramedics to get to Evanston would be shorter then for all the appropriate medical professionals to be called in and get to HP.

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Steve S.

2:07 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Correct, they are not equipped for this type of trauma at HP

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Rich M

2:27 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Darn, I thought HP Hospital would be at that level. Now living down the street from it isn't as great as I thought! But getting to Evanston in an ambulance would still be a 15-20 minute ride. Oh well. Hopefully I'll never need it.

Shannon

1:15 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Indian Trail has set up a memorial fund for the little girls family. Please call the school and help this family.

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Andrew

3:03 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Thanks for letting us know. Will spread the word.

Shannon

1:51 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

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Melissa

2:31 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Could you please resend the link. I may be missing something and cannot get it to work. I would like to contribute.

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David Greenberg

3:47 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I don't want to appear uncaring about this tragic situation, but a fund to help them pay for the medical bills? The driver had a Lexus. Assuming they're insured, the insurance should be used to cover those bills. If the insurance maxes out, sue the driver for the rest.

If the driver wasn't insured (not likely or there'd probably be a ticket for that we'd be reading about in the story) - then again, the driver likely has some assets. Sue.

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TJ Wheeler

3:56 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

David -- it's a Memorial Fund. Maybe 'in memory of' or something else. It may go to family, church, school, etc.... funeral expenses (not covered by most auto policies) .... and other expenses that may help the family out. Sure, they should definitely sue the driver (it's America AND Highland Park, so it's obvious a lawsuit will surface), but we both know that takes 3 years to settle or go to trial.

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Standards

3:59 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

JEEZ, you do sound uncaring. This family is probably not in a position to handle immediate expenses waiting for the insurance companies to argue fault, negligence, etc.

One would hope the family of the girl who killed the child would privately help out, but I'm sure their attorney would advise against that as it admits liability.

Its really great this community of wealth helps them out, and David Greenberg you should be writing a check right now. I am.

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TJ Wheeler

4:10 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Standards -- just ignore David. He's usually unconcerned, unemotional, unsympathetic in most of his posts.... as well as cheap and cost consensus. It's part of his contribution to Patch that makes reading his posts sometimes interesting.

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David Greenberg

4:29 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

TJ: I'm not unconcerned - of course there's reason to be concerned about someone, anyone, being injured on a sidewalk. And especially a sidewalk with as much separation from the road way as that one has on a 25 mph street.

Unemotional: Yes. Granted that might not be the case if these were relatives or friends of mine. But as a general rule, bringing emotions into the situation isn't going to help figure out what happened, why it happened, and how to prevent it from happening again.

And I'm not unsympathetic to the plight of those involved. I asked a question as to why a memorial fund was being setup given the fact that this wasn't a "hit 'n run" by some uninsured driver.

"Cheap": I look for ways to operate more effectively and efficiently in everything I do, and I expect the same from companies I work with, and governmental districts that I reside within. There's nothing wrong with that, nor anything to apologize for, nor does it mean I'm "cheap".

Cost conscious: Yep. You bet. But again, there's nothing wrong with that either. In the instant case though, that doesn't appear to have come into play.

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John Richards

4:53 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I could not agree more with David Greenberg. I as well do not want to appear uncaring, but why a memorial fund? It, to me, cheapens the loss that the family suffered. Some things cannot be made better with money. Oh and to "Standards" who commented "his family is probably not in a position to handle immediate expenses waiting for the insurance companies to argue fault, negligence, etc." Why? Why are they probably not in that position? "Standards" can you say it? no you cant.

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Standards

5:07 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

YES I CAN SAY IT. WHO THE HELL HAS AN EXTRA $16,000 laying around to buy a child in this economy? Not me and I live near the lake in HP in a giant house. Times are tough for everyone, including you I"m sure. My friend just buried her father, and the costs are crazy high, and you need money to pay for it - "AT NEED" burials cost a hell of a lot more the "PRE-NEED".

If your mind went to the racial aspect, then shame on you.

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Standards

5:08 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

If donating offends you then don't, but leave decent people alone.

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Michele Goldstein

7:44 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Those that don't want to donate, don't, but those that don't have anything but condolences and prayers for this family that just suffered an unthinkables loss, keep your comments on this subject to yourselves. I recognize this is a forum to share your thoughts, but let's show some sensitivity here.

smartguy

2:08 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

A lot of the above comments are just plain stupid. What happened is a tragedy and until all the facts are known--everything is mere speculation.
And by the way not every Lexus is a high performance car and not every teen driving a Lexus is a spolied rich kid. I have a seven year old Lexus sedan that my 17-year old daughter periodically drives (she does not have her own car). The car is worth probably $12-13,000. Not exactly a "luxury car."

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Standards

2:18 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Well,smartguy, did you see the car? I did. In another thread i quoted the performance stats of the car - and it has 416 hp with 0-60 in 4 seconds. Not all Lexus's have this performance, but if you read the whole thread you'd see what was discussed. There is nothing wrong with a 7 year old Lexus, as I"m sure its not comparing apples to apples with this one. Would you want your 17 year old driving something with 0-60 in 4 seconds with 416 horsepower? I wouldn't, and i wouldn't want you to put your child in one either for everyone's safety. I do know a thing or two about cars, but that is another conversation for another day.

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Katie O'Meara

3:32 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

smartguy, you're not so smart as you clearly did not do your research before you posted. perhaps you'd like to go back and look at the photos of the new lexus sports car valued at $85k. for me that's luxury. but you're the smartguy.

Maya

2:28 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

The 18 year old may suffer from epilepsy and that a seizure caused the accident. If so this situation is much more complicated than these commenters understand. Let's wait and see

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Rich M

2:48 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Then epileptics should NEVER drive based on the overall discussion. They are a ticking time bomb. It's only a matter of time before they have a seizure. So where will the next one be? On the Edens? Downtown HP? Next to a softball field? Forget it. Too risky. You have epilepsy, you shouldn't be allowed to drive.

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Maya

3:29 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Rich. Illinois law allows epileptics to drive. What "should" be the law can be open for discussion. But if this girl was driving legally and doing everything in her power to have her seizures under control and this happened, then she is not to blame any more than a person with poor heart health who has a heart attack while driving and injures someone. We can try to change the law, but under the present law, eplileptics are allowed to drive with a doctor's ok.

A.Resident

2:37 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR THE LOSS OF THIS CHILD. TO LET THE DRIVER
JUST GO HOME AND TELL YOUR PARENTS WHAT YOU DID TODAY WOULD BE WORSE. THE DRIVER WOULD OF HIT THIS FAMILY NO MATTER WHAT CAR SHE WAS DRIVNG. WHERE WAS HER MIND AND WHAT WAS SHE THINKING OR DOING?
I HOPE THIS FAMILY WILL HIRE THE BEST ATTORNEY TO RESOLVE THESE ISSUES.
TO BURY A CHILD IS THE WORST NIGHTMARE A PARENT CAN HAVE.

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BlueJayAllTheWay

2:41 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I urge everyone to be patient regarding the circumstances of this horrible event. Speculation about texting and other things should be avoided bc the real reason will come out and people might be surprised - and perhaps even a bit sympathetic. Having said that, my heart goes out to the family of this poor little girl.

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Katie O'Meara

2:31 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

I believe all the speculation is occurring because it feels as though the authorities involved are withholding information that is normally shared with the community. Compare the lack of detail in the Patch report vs. other new sources which include pictures and other relevant details. As a result I and many others have no faith the truth will ever come out. If authorities can hide the identity of a citizen who killed a human being and seriously injured three others it seems to me they can hide anything.

Justin

2:51 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

A lot of you commenters are out for blood for the driver or writing senselessly disparaging comments about Highland Park that sound like impotent envy.

No, Highland Park is not more dangerous to walk around than any other suburb. I've never heard of any statistical evidence to suggest that. And if I had to bet, I would definitely bet that Highland Park would be safer than average because the residents are less likely to be under the influence than in other places, because their cars are more likely to have well-maintained tires and brakes and to be recent models with better traction control, stability control, and pedestrian safety features, and because the drivers have more to lose in a potential civil suits.

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TJ Wheeler

3:15 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I disagree -- while there is no statistical evidence that I know of. I have 20 years of driving experience on the North Shore to know that HP drivers simply do not care. I work less than a half block from the accident site. I have a view of the stop signs on 1st/Central and 2nd/Central. I AVOID DRIVING in downtown HP (I use Laurel) and I cross one of those intersections each weekday to get lunch. I've never seen a worse drivers at a 4-stop intersection in my life after working here for 5+ years. Whether cars maintained or not, that doesn't control the driver's ability to DRIVE THE CAR.

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Allison G

3:39 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

TJ wheeler is completely correct. I JUST saw an elderly woman crossing by ross discount and a car swerving around her because the driver refused to wait 2 seconds for this woman to cross. No way can you say HP is not extremely impatient and aggressive with the 4 way stop signs and right on reds etc.

Justin

2:57 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

As to why the police department hasn't released the name of the driver or made an arrest? Maybe there was zero evidence at the scene to suggest criminal negligence. Maybe the driver showed no signs of intoxication and didn't have a phone on her, or maybe the phone showed no recent call or text history. Yes witness accounts describe the car as having been driven erratically, but I bet that 80+% of people could not tell the difference between "driving erratically" and the oversteer that would be extremely easy to cause when driving a light-weight, high power, rear-wheel drive car around a turn in wet conditions, as seems to have been the case in this accident. Witnesses describe the driver as acting erratically, but what 18 year old (or 38 year old, or 88 year old) wouldn't be overtaken by emotion when realizing that they had just run down a family and possibly killed a 5 year old?

I'm just saying, I find it very unlikely that the police department would have let the driver go without figuring out if she was under the influence or texting/calling while driving. From my experience there is nothing corrupt or unprofessional about the HP police. They are actually more professional than the Chicago police which is one of the perks of a city that can afford to hire out of the top of the police academy class. I am sure that they will be very thorough.

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TJ Wheeler

3:06 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I agree -- Police work takes time.... her name will come out eventually, either through the media, police, our comments or civil procedure. She'll still have to wakeup every day realizing she killed a 5 year old while 'driving erratically', or not -- while 'drunk' or 'high', or not..... whatever the case might be.

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Steve S.

3:57 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Wet conditions? It was totally dry and sunny. Please explain. Also I believe the erratic driving came before the vehicle killed the boy. Of course the kid was overcome by emotion AFTER he killed a child, how does this explain what he was doing before, and why does his reaction after the fact make a difference. The police will figure it out.

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Standards

4:05 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Steve S. - it was a "she" not a "he" driver, and some people were witnesses remember....the erratic driving was prior, not after.

Justin

2:58 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

This case looks like a tragic accident. How many of you have no friends or family that have ever swerved out of control and crashed? The awful difference here is that the driver lost control on a busy street and by cruel fate she hit pedestrians.

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Steve S.

4:09 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

True, and yes I know people who have swerved and crashed. None of them ended in the death of a 5 year old child and even though that is the awful difference it doesn't bring the boy back and also does not diminish the need for a thorough investigation to confirm (or not) whether this in fact was an accident in it's purest form or as a result of drugs or alcohol.

Stu Pidasso

3:07 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

People, quit speculating and lets wait and see what the PD comes up with. I had heard that "huffing" was a possibility. The mere fact that she hit them, then hit the building and proceeded to back up and hit the pedestrians a second time before driving forward into the building once again, tells me that she was out of her mind at the time.It is a tragic story for everyone involved. If she was under the influence of chemicals or the like, it was a decision that will affect her for the rest of her life and that of the innocent people walking on the sidewalk.... Very sad...

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David Greenberg

3:51 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Where do you get the "backed up and hit them a 2nd time" thing from? That almost sounds like my HPHS Traffic Safety teacher making a bad joke oh so long ago...

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Steve S.

4:22 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I have also heard the "huffing" rumor. Someone above commented that it would be unlikely that an 18 year old would be intoxicated at 2:30pm in the afternoon....... I didn't know that kids watch the clock before they hit the booze.

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jim longer

9:52 am on Friday, September 14, 2012

she was huffing and driving it is like murder driving a car like that it is a weapon she could have killed the whole family she should get at lease 20 years

Art Daniels

4:49 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

What a tragedy. A tragedy that this family will have to suffer this loss. A tragedy that readers will debate meaningless garbage like the horsepower of the car involved. A tragedy that real news happened in Highland Park and yet the editor couldn't do more than run a press release and source a WEEKLY NEWSPAPER. Yes, Jacob, you were scooped by a weekly newspaper that doesn't pay attention to its online content. Here's the real stories Jacob was referring to: http://highlandpark.suntimes.com/news/14921479-418/car-jumps-curb-in-highland-park-killing-5-year-old-girl.html and http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/suburbs/highland_park_highwood/chi-car-drives-onto-highland-park-sidewalk-kills-girl-5-injures-family-20120903,0,62182.story

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The Q

5:24 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

as usual Greenberg is right and all the crazy liberals are out to take your rights away before we even know the facts......good lord.

That poor girl and her family is all that matters right now, my heart breaks just thinking about it.

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Standards

5:44 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

How can you differentiate Liberals from Conservatives via these comments? You have no idea which I am, and you are wrong.
Why are you bringing politics into this. YOU ARE INAPPROPRIATE and i hope everyone on this page flags you as such as you are trying to start people arguing about BS.

Maybe if Greenberg had a job other than trolling the Patch for pot-stirring, like the rest of us. I only comment on some issues, i don't comment on everything daily like some of you sad people. Get a Job and if you have one, do your job. Stop inciting people with your nonsense.

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The Q

5:52 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Put the keyboard down and take your meds!

Your insulting everyone and you point the finger at me........hah. You got like 30 posts in here settle down. It call freedom of speech if you dont like it dont read it.....but you sure sound like a liberal.

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David Greenberg

4:05 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Sorry Standards, my job is not trolling the Patch for pot-stirring as you call it. If I feel like commenting on something, I will. If that bothers you - it's unfortunate, but not my problem.

forest barbieri

5:56 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Tomorrow my daughter and I will be making a donation to the family at Indian Trail School. My daughter will be using some of the monies she has saved for a new iPhone. While donations are a personal matter, I post this to solicit those readers within our community to reach into their hearts and wallets to give what you might feel comfortable with as it could have been any of us walking in that spot with our families.

I have no doubt that this is a hard working family that dreamed of a better life for their children and now has this terrible tragedy to deal with. Sure there is insurance et al but no doubt the process will take time and we are all shareholders within our community and as such, have a responsibility to reach out where we can.

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Harry Steindler

6:09 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

My heart goes out to the family and friends of the 5 year old girl. The memorial fund is a very thoughtful idea - money doesn't ease the hurt, but as others have pointed out, this family will have immediate financial needs - especially considering that the mother was injured as well.

The HP police, like my hometown Deerfield police, have always seemed to me to be professional, justice minded and incredibly caring about their community. They and others will properly investigate the situation.

As always, in tragedy, there are lessons to be learned - discussions about HP traffic safety is probably a good thing, reminding ourselves and young drivers in our lives about the enormous responsibilities of driving a car is a good thing (without speculating on any reasons, as yet unknown, for this horrible tragedy).

Tragedy should also be the time for a community to come together to support those who need it - the family and their friends - and to stay away from attacking each other on the PATCH.

I agree with Forest - let's all help out in any way we can - and money is part of that help.

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Old H.P.

6:31 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Well said Forest and Harry. Now leave it at that everyone.

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sandra locascio

6:49 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Rather than tweeting , pray for both families. I'm sure the driver was on something or texting. Had to have been. We will hear about it soon once the investigation is over . Right now the families especially the 5 yr old's family need all the thoughts and prayers possible.

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Kristin Troutwomen

8:30 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Let's try to pull together as a community for all involved. No one leaves their house with the intent of running over an entire family. This driver's life will be forever changed regardless if she is criminally punished or not. More importantly we need to help the Santos- Sacremento family in any way that we can. Money will not lessen this families grief. Hopefully it will let them grieve without the extra burden of medical bills or lost money from missed work days. I am a local business owner I will be organizing a party that will have food/drink with raffle prizes. If you would like me to keep you updated please email me kristin_cisek@yahoo.com

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Phil McCrackin

11:30 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Having lived on the North Shore my entire life, and having gone to school with Rodney Watt, I don't find it at all surprising that the HP police have not released the name of the driver. She is guilty of at least several traffic violations at the onset of this tragedy, as to the cause of her sidewalk driving, that remains to be discovered/revealed. As a licensed driver in Illinois, you are responsible for how you drive your car. I feel awful for the family who lost their daughter, and the girl that killed her will have to wake up with that for the rest of her life. If we happen to learn of extenuating circumstances like drugs/alcohol, texting, or whatever, then that 18 year old just threw her life away. I'm interested to see what happens with her.

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Stu Pidasso

12:12 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

"a female 18-year-old Highland Park resident, who was also treated and released at Highland Park Hospital." To all of you "Morons" who read the article and then go on to post "maybe she had a stroke or a heart attack, or a seizure" I think you need to take reading comprehension 101 once again, as you would realize that if that were the case she would have been kept in the hospital, and not released a couple of hours later!!! Come on people get with the program.....

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Stu Pidasso

12:19 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@ David Greenberg... The being hit a second time comes from an eyewitness who was across the street at the gas station and saw it unfold from the beginning!!! (NOT HEARSAY) I HAPPENED TO TALK TO HIM BEFORE HE WENT OVER AND GAVE A STATEMENT... said it was surreal, and first thought it could have been a domestic. David, unfortunately it was NOT a bad joke......

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David Greenberg

4:07 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Stu, thanks for the update and insight.

Theodore Perez

12:40 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

This tragedy is so sad. It is sad to hear the details. It gives me a hollow feeling that our PD has not arrested the driver. Had the driver been Hispanic and the victim white and rich, we would have heard of charges and seen an arrest - no doubt. It is a sad reminder that our community is not as inclusive and supportive as it claims. It is also sad to read of the members of our community providing the benefit of doubt to the driver. Really, have you read the latest post in Chicago Tribune and hear the witness reports? Consider the facts. The driver was headed eastbound, crossing three lanes of traffic, jumped a curb on the westbound side of Central, ran over 4 people and then backed over them again. The tragedy is just too much to overlook as an accident. It is clear from these details that the driver was under some influence or otherwise reckless. The HP PD owe our community and the family more transparency. In addition to our financial support and sympathy, we should demand the respect and justice that this family (and all of us) want from our community.

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Samantha Stolberg

9:12 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Theodore-

There must be some valid legalities present that they have yet to release the name of the driver, but I think the police department has done a poor job communicating that explanation to the community. "Investigation ongoing" can be an acceptable justification, but only if well explained to a community in outrage. Clearly this isn't a case of simple DUI, as a breathalyzer would have evidenced that fairly quickly. I don't want to speculate, but I gather this is a lot deeper than any of us know.

Highland Park strives to encourage inclusion and support of all cultures. I think this is well demonstrated in the outpouring of support for this family over the last 36 hours. PLEASE do not let the police's lack of information negate any of that.

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Samantha Stolberg

9:16 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

"At the direction of the Lake County State's Attorney's Office, the release states that charges have not been filed, pending investigation results and state crime lab analysis."

So clearly it's not the Highland Park Police Department's call.

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Samantha Stolberg

7:25 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Mayor Rotering has issued a statement regarding the handling of the driver's identity:

http://www.cityhpil.com/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=123

Steve S.

8:33 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

To the 17 yr old from Deerfield HS, you are a brave young man. Nice Job.

From TribLocal:
We're certainly looking at the possibility impairment was involved here," said Highland Park Deputy Police Chief George Pfutzenreuter. "You don't just throw the charges at somebody until you get all the evidence back."

After striking the family, at some point the vehicle moved backward, possibly striking one of the victims again, according to the deputy chief.

A 17-year-old Deerfield High School student told the Tribune he was with his mother pulling out of the Sunset Food parking lot when they turned onto Central Avenue and saw a woman in a black Lexus cut across two lanes of traffic and strike the family.

The teen said he saw the vehicle back over the family after the initial crash. Then the car slowly rolled toward them again, and he said he put himself between the car and the people who were injured on the ground.

"I pushed as hard as I could," he said. "The little boy had blood running down his face, the little girl was ominously silent and the mother was wailing on her cell phone."

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David Greenberg

4:15 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

There's a lot of possibilities. One is that the driver may have fallen asleep (I saw that once at the old Jewel when I was about 12 yrs old. Elderly male driver fell asleep waiting for his wife, hit the gas, drove right through the fence and smashed into the block wall that's along the edge of the Corbe bldg parking lot).

Maybe she took some sleep aid the night before and it had an adverse effect on her...

Maybe she was drunk. Narcoleptic. Epileptic. Fainted due to dehydration or some other reason. Or maybe the car had some mechanical failure.

As for backing up - perhaps she was in shock and thought that was the right thing to do. Or if she was sleeping, in a dream state...

Tragic nonetheless, but I'm certain we'll find out what happened. The family walking on the sidewalk certainly has my sympathies...

A.Resident

9:25 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

The monies that are being so generously donated should go directly to the family. All medical bills will be paid by the DRIVER'S insurance company.
More people will donate when they are sure that the monies go to the family.

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Steve S.

9:29 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

I believe the money is meant to go to pay for the funeral, I'm pretty sure the DRIVERS insurance won't pay for that, and for expenses incurred while the mom is recovering and cannot work or perfom daily routine.

Samantha Stolberg

7:25 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Mayor Rotering has issued a statement regarding the handling of the driver's identity:

http://www.cityhpil.com/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=123

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The Q

7:27 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Shes full of it.....the cops could have held that girl for 24 hours at the least.

Kathy B

8:52 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

I think this family needs a GOOD LAWYER how about that?? Is there anyone out there
who can represent them for free?? The driver was charged with a midemeaner

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Melissa

8:54 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

why Patch is not on it is beyond me

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Melissa

9:02 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

I am very upset with HP Patch. This girl was named in this blog at 1:10pm this afternoon. HP took the post down immediately. The girl's name is also listed in Deerfield Patch as was left in tact:

http://deerfield.patch.com/articles/no-charges-yet-in-highland-park-fatal-accident#comments_list

I know because I subscribed to the thread and got the e-mail naming her.

Someone named by John Born lists the girl's name in Deerfield Patch, but the HP contributor got flagged...although real information.

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Longtime HP Resident

1:04 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Melissa:

I wondered the same thing. Who are we protecting and why? This is public information. Who are we afraid of offending?

Social Justice

9:28 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

The driver needs to be charged with murder. She killed someone.

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Phil McCrackin

10:09 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

I can't believe that this girl is not in the Lake County jail. She is guilty of at least negligent or vehicular manslaughter at this point. She has been charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated, she murdered a five year old girl and injured three others while she was driving under the influence, why is she not in jail?!?! I have to say, sadly, that I agree with Theodore Perez's opinion that, had the driver been a minority or someone of lesser means that they WOULD be in jail right now. I don't say this lightly either. Having been born and raised, and still living on the north shore, I can't tell you the number of times I've been on Green Bay or Sheridan road, and seen older less expensive cars pulled over by the police. Not to say I haven't seen a Mercedes or BMW pulled over also. I had my share of traffic stops when I was younger also, and I didn't drive a nice car, but it seemed that as soon as they saw my Glencoe address on my drivers license, their attitude softened quite a bit. Read the police blotter from HP, Glencoe, Winnetka, or one of the other NS towns, and you'll notice that a majority of the tickets issued are to people who don't live here. I dont wish ill on anyone, but I hope this girl that is responsible is given what she deserves and no less.

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Social Justice

10:12 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Why isn't she in jail? Without bond? Hmmm, yep if it were the other way around you bet someone would be in jail. Wrong, just wrong.

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Megan

12:32 am on Friday, September 7, 2012

She was charged with Misdemeanor DUI. The actions of an 18-year old adult killed an innocent child and traumatized a family for life. At the least, she should be charged with involuntary man slaughter -- especially considering her illegal underage drinking and driving. Her family's socio-economic status should have no bearing on the consequences received for such a crime - which undoubtedly led to this 18 year old's minimal charges. If this were an intoxicated, underage black or latino individual who was driving AND killed a child, the charges would be severe. The severity of the crime does not change and the resulting consequences should not fluctuate due to the perpetrator's socio-economic status.

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Pam Farraday

4:41 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

From her past, Carly had several issues/problems going on in her life. As a parent of two teens, I found it is better to be pro-active, not a helicopter parent but if your son or daughter needs help, seek professional help ie: psychiatrist, therapy, new environment/school whatever fits their needs in order to help them. Losing a child no matter the age is the worst thing a parent has to live with. Sympathy to all involved.
https://twitter.com/carlyrousso/status/15297625329

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di

3:52 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012

HP.....have live here for more than 30 years. Peoples acttituds are the worst in this city, I hate it. The police have been known for been racists for years. I have been in the side of the one been hurt by a rich bratt like this Carly, I was crossing Park ave and a driver hit my baby stroller with her in it Thank God because the stroller received the impact other wise my baby would had been hit... Well guess what the driver was the daughter of a prominent surgeon apparently well known so I was not hear by police or anyone. Thank God my daughter was ok. But the attitud of police and lawyers change my idea of this beautiful city full of self center individuals that think they are better than anyone else and have no problem on showing it and express it. My heart goes to the Santos family and hope this time justice prevail.

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