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Judge Suggests Probation Possible in Teen Burglary Case

Lawyers tell judge resolution of charges may be near for Deerfield teens arrested for invading Highland Park home.

 

A Lake County Criminal Court judge told two Deerfield teenagers charged with invading a Highland Park home and other offenses he may consider probation during a pretrial hearing today in Waukegan.

Joshua Norris and Joseph Mahoney, both 18, of Deerfield were indicted September 10 on charges including home invasion with a weapon of a Highland Park home in August, residential burglary and use of a firearm in the commission of a crime.

Earlier: Grand Jury Indicts Deerfield Teens

“Sometimes in cases like this I consider probation and in other cases the person is going to go to prison,” Judge Daniel Shanes said to Norris. “I’ll look at how things have been going, the choices you have been making and see how to go from there.”

Norris told Shanes he understood. Before letting Norris know jail and probation were potential options he asked him how things have been going since August. “I’m learning a lot,” Norris said.

Before Shanes had separate conversations with the two defendants, Mahoney attorney Chris Cronson told Shanes a resolution of the case was possible this month. “We’ve been in discussions and are close to a resolution,” Cronson said.

Assistant Lake County State’s Attorney Steve Scheller agreed. “We are contemplating a resolution,” he said.

After the lawyers briefed Shanes, the judge turned his attention to Mahoney, the first of the two defendants to appear before him.

“One of the things that’s important in cases like this is how you are doing on bond (and in) the program at Omni,” Shanes said. “If you have success there the better the possibility you succeed at probation.”

Shanes continued the pretrial to 9 a.m. Feb. 28 in Waukegan. The case is currently set for trial March 4.

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Related Topics: Burglary, Highland Park Home Invasion, Home Invasion, Joseph Mahoney, Joshua Norris, and Norris Mahoney Charges

L Vondrake

12:55 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

The old days in Cook County, Judge Saul Eption would wave jail time if the youth suddenly joined the US Military. Yes the military took these young offenders and made men out of them by turning them into fine soldiers with respect and honor. Amazing how simple things actually worked. The DI's are worth their weight in gold.

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Edward Richarson

9:12 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

The Military? The Military doesn't want these criminals. Serving one's country is a privilege not a punishment and what they did was against the law and they should be sent to jail

Rich M

1:18 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Norris should get probation. Mahoney needs to go to prison to teach him a lesson. He's a BAD seed.

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Gayle

1:53 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

@Rich M - Joe is a kid struggling with some problems; prison is not the best choice for him. The army, vocational training or college are all better options that can direct this young man - and his wonderful, supportive family - on a path toward a good future. Fortunately, it sounds like the judge in this case is more compassionate and less judgmental than you are.

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Eagle

2:59 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Rich,
I know first hand that Joe is being taught a lesson. He realizes that what he did was wrong and he is working with different organizations to get his life on track. He is very sorry for what he did and understands he has to suffer the consequences for his actions. He is trying to get his life on track. We should give him the benefit of the doubt right now.

bobstevens

2:09 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Hey Gayle...Joe is struggling because he has no home ramifications. His father, just as bad. When his antics hit you personally, then you will sing a different song.
He should be judged on his actions and his age. Punishment should be to the fullest extent of the law without recognition of "compassion" factor.

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Eagle

2:54 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Hey Bob,
How do you know what ramifications Joe has? You should quit running your mouth off if you do not know the facts. The best thing is to get this kid help. His family has been working with outside sources to help him with his issues. Everyone makes mistakes, Joe deserves a chance to get his act together.

Thugs2013

2:33 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

They are the Scum of the earth!!!! Lock them both up.

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McCloud

3:59 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

No worries the new gun legislation is on the way. Dangerous thugs who use guns will have to deal with registrations, training of proper care and handling, etc. They will no longer have time to shoot people.

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Real

5:01 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

Eagle:
You know nothing. Do you know of the lack of ramifications for dozens of indescretions that preceeded this event? You act like this angel of a kid went out and made a mistake. Interesting that now, when faced with serious trouble there is alleged parenting taking place. I know what every other parent knows...that this kid is trouble and continued coddling will not help. At some point, justice needs to kick in.
Eagle, I do not like your tone, you must be related to the bullying family.

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Eagle

12:15 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Real,
What are you talking about "bullying family"? Which family is accused of bullying? I never heard that before. You must have some additional information that no one know about! Or, are you taking the facts and twisting them?

Yeah, I do know that this was not the first issue with the "kid". I do know that he is not a "thug" or a "criminal". The kid needs help and has been getting it. He also is not a changed person, yet. It will take time and effort from him and his parents to straighten out his issues, with the help of trained councillors. Putting him in jail is not going to solve the issue and can cause quite a few more.

As far as my "tone", it bothers me that people who don't know the facts, want to throw these kids in jail and portray them out to be Public Enemy #1. What they did was wrong and needs to be dealt with. The judge needs to look at all of the FACTS and determine if Incarcerating them is the best situation for these two. It is my opinion that therapy and rehabilitation seems to be a better solution.

If for any reason, either of these two do not take this seriously or violates the conditions set forth, I am in agreement, harsher measures should be pursued.

It is real easy for people to run their mouths off, many times not knowing the facts. Making statements of half truth. Fact is, it is not helpful to the situation, all.

JessicaGY

9:50 pm on Monday, February 4, 2013

If someone walks into my home with a firearm, and doesn't go to jail- I would be fuggin pissed.

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Eagle

12:17 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Are you dealing drugs? Do you know the "fuggin" situation?

Fedup

8:20 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

When 18 year-olds commit home invasions, there's something seriously wrong with them. This type of crime is in the big leagues, and whether people want to face it or not, by the time criminals are committing home invasions they probably already have a long list of crimes behind them.

I understand second chances, but we should be wary. It's too bad if they get probation -- it would be a gift -- but if that's the sentence, they should be given the longest possible term with all possible conditions imposed. One slip-up, then it's to the pen.

It pays to re-read that great short story "The Bad Seed." Some people are simply criminals -- they commit crime like dogs bark: it's what they do. That doesn't mean they have to live in our midst. Lock up the bad ones early and you get rid of 80% of crime.

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Eagle

12:22 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Fedup,
There are other circumstances you are not aware of. This was not a random home invasion. Don't get me wrong, what they did was wrong. I do agree with your second paragraph. A second chance is what is best for them, but if abused or ignored, should be dealt with accordingly.

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Edward Richarson

9:31 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Eagle the lack of it being not being "random" is irrelevant. They are 18 years old that means by law they are adults and should be treated like so. In life you do not get second chances, what if they shot someone in that house? Oh it would be okay because the kid in the house sold dime bags of weed so that means he was a criminal too. But they should get a second chance because they are white and there parents can afford to send them to college so its okay judge. Such bullshit I hope these criminals break there parole and get sent to jail. Because that's where they deserve to go.

Eric Lewis

8:30 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

So if these two thugs were of minority decent, would the judge be looking at probation? Is justice being served here? What about the family whose home was invaded by armed thugs? I bet the family has experienced quite a few of sleepless nights since that invasion. Where is their justice?

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Bryce Robertson

9:45 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

Not excusing what they did, but the "victim" family has issues of their own to deal with... this wasn't a random home invasion - specifically, the two boys pictured above were trying to rob their drug dealer, who happened to be their age but a student at HPHS (not DHS, like them). So, if there's any sleepless nights in that house, maybe they'll focus on getting their kid the help he needs. Nobody was innocent in this mess; there were no typical "victims".

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RonnieTheLimoDriver

6:50 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

Bryce, you forgot about the other victim we know about. These idiots stole a gun from an innocent family.

forest barbieri

8:56 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

Certainly if these two were of color from a poorer city where their parents could not afford lawyers that would send them out of state to get "help" and praise their newly found humble beginnings, probation would not be on the table.

I just hope that they have indeed learned something as I would hate to read about these guys again in a few years.

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Eagle

12:35 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Ronnie, you do not know all of the FACTS about how the gun was obtained. Does it make you feel better to call these two idiots? Why all of the degrading? What they did was wrong, calling them idiots and making derogatory comments about them really doesn't provide value to the blog.

Forest, the fact is they are not of color or from a poorer city. Fortunately, they have parents who care and are working with people to understand the implications of this issue as well as other issues they are facing.

We all hope that they learned something from this. I am with you, it would be terrible for these two to not learn from what has happened and wind up in a similar or worse situation down the line if they get a second chance.

The Q

9:15 am on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

Army sounds like a good choice for these two......prison is a mistake.

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tedsmithdds

1:32 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Forced anal in a prison shower sounds like a better choice for these two
I am not a fan of taking robbers and dealers and sending them to protect my freedom.

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Edward Richarson

9:19 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

The Army isn't a punishment and just because the parents failed to raise decent human beings doesn't mean they get the honor of protecting our freedoms.

RonnieTheLimoDriver

6:49 pm on Tuesday, February 5, 2013

With all the talk in our country about doing something about gun violence, giving these guys probation would be a huge mistake. THEY STOLE A GUN AND ROBBED A HOUSE. It doesn't matter if the victim was accused of selling drugs. Another example of not enforcing the laws we have on firearms. These are not sweet little boys. These are criminals and I do not want them in our community. I personally, am not concerned about what is best for the 2 crooks. I am concerned about what is best for Deerfield and Highland Park. Commit the crime, do the time.

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Eagle

11:56 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Ronnie, the judge is trying to weigh the options to do what is right for the kids. And they ARE kids. Lou (below) makes a good point. Putting them in jail to integrate into a prison population is not going to benefit them. By allowing them to get professional help and guidance to steer them in the right direction, that is allowing them the opportunity to turn their lives around.

If they violate the probation, I agree with you.

As far as "stealing" the gun and "robbing" a house, you do not know all of the facts. This has been a stressful situation for everyone. It is wrong for you to rant on about this situation and especially the kids, when you are on the outside looking in. Calling them crooks when they have not been convicted in a court of law is also defamatory.

Lou

11:56 am on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

What is the best course before these men are released back into society? Prison, with its inherent dangers and isolation, or, probation with a real chance of rehabilitation? Each and every criminal short of those who receive life sentences or the death penalty, return to their homes, neighborhoods, schools and/or communities to interact with just about the same individuals again. Probation would afford these men a chance to start over and also offer the community a chance to watch over them and maybe assist in their rehabilitation. None of us is perfect and I believe the judge, by considering probation, is making the right decision. Yes, the homeowner was scared and if he suffered he could sue in civil court. But, no physical injuries occurred even though they could have. I hope these two understand this compassionate judge's aims and the gift they could receive.

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Benny G.

3:21 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Typical Patch readers totally out of touch with anything real.

Back in the 70's this "crime" happened 3 times a week. All you have to do is say "gun" or "drugs" and all the Patchies get all wadded up.

North Shore white kids smoking weed and running around HP doing stupid stuff as a result is as far from any "big league" as possible.

Look at the picture of these two heinous felons! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Benny G.

3:22 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Saul Epton would of had the parents donate money to the Boys Clubs of America case closed...

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texanstar

6:13 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Eagle-sounds like you must be the attorney for one of the defendants. why don't you identify your relationship since you seem to have a lot of knowledge as well as A LOT to say...

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Eagle

7:27 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

Actually, I am a friend of theirs and am sick of people making comments that are not factual. I may sound like an attorney because I expect people that make comments to make factual statements and not twist the truth.

For some reason, people troll this blog, when they don't even live in the community or were affected by the events that took place. It is hard for me to understand why people on patch "get off" by embellishing on incorrect statements, just to hear (or see) themselves speak.

I think these two kids made a mistake. They have issues and are getting help. Hopefully, with the proper help and guidance, they can be an asset to society, instead of a drain. Throwing them in jail at 18, without trying to rehabilitate them would be a waste.

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texanstar

7:41 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

Thank you for the clarification and for explaining your relationship. I agree that there are way too many people who comment on Patch just to see their names in print. And the sad part is that these people make no sense most of the time!

Keeping them honest

11:03 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Eagle already identified that he knows the family and knows the steps they are taking to assist their son in getting the help he needs to get his life in order. Many of you here seem to be throwing around a lot of accusations without a lot of facts. As Bryce said, not that it excuses what BOTH boys did, but this was not a random home invasion; if it was, it would be a whole different story and I would say throw them in prison. This was TWO high school boys trying to scare their high school drug dealer - with a gun that a friend said they could take from his house, not one that they stole. Was this an incredibly stupid action by two high school boys? Without a doubt. Should they go to prison and, as tedsmithdds so compassionately stated, endure "forced anal in a prison shower" and come out of prison years from now completely screwed up? I think not... and fortunately the judge seems to agree.

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Benny G.

1:33 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Hey Moe, have another drink bro. Your flare for drama is duly noted. Say hi to Bobby for me.

This drug dealer had to be a buddy of theirs that they smoked weed with in the past. Such hyperbole.

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Moe @ the Buck

5:22 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Benny, thanks boo boo. How come You don't come and say hi to Bobby yourself? He's there every morning. What should I say, Benny G says hi. He'll say "who"? I'll say "Benny G".he'll say "who the f#@* is that? I'll say "I don't know, he's your buddy". He'll say" Benny G,Benny G, wait a minute, that's the f&?#&#+ C%*$@%?#?r that owes me money! You know my ol'buddy Bob. Sorry if my comments above weren't too your liking. You want to see drama, come up to Highwood on a Friday night. Tons of drama all over town.

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Moe @ the Buck

6:01 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

I struck those dramatic comments for you too. Quite frankly, I don't really care what happens to these guys. I'm moving to a happier story, like the bear laying on the rock. See you at the Buck!

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Benny G.

10:45 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Moe Moe lost in the fog. Boiled as an owl.

MoeMoe, the only thing at the Bucky are the cockroaches that scatter everywhere when the lights come on.

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Moe @ the Buck

4:02 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

Benny G! That's it, no more hot dogs or hamburgers for you. Im just kidding. Your welcome anytime. I'll tell bobby you said hi. If it weren't for the cockroaches of Highwood, our jobs wouldn't be so exciting.

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TRUTH

2:18 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013

WHITE PRIVILEGE, CLEAR PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

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Edward Richarson

9:26 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

I agree completely, if these kids were minorities and couldn't afford a good lawyer they would already be in prison.

Edward Richarson

9:12 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

The Military? The Military doesn't want these criminals. Serving one's country is a privilege not a punishment and what they did was against the law and they should be sent to jail.

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shirley kohler

3:45 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013

regardless of who they were trying to rob, they took a weapon into someone's home to rob them. they are not kids, they are adults and as such should be punished accordingly. they can repent and they can get help as it sounds like they're getting through a program they've been ordered to attend. however, the committed a serious crime and should be punished for that crime. probation hardly seems adequate.

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