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What Should Replace Central Avenue's Corner Bakery?

The downtown Highland Park sandwich shop closed its doors at the end of October. What should take its place?

 

Late last week, the Corner Bakery on Central Avenue closed, surprising many Highland Park residents.

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"Wow!" said Patch columnist Ed Brill in surprise about the news on Facebook. "It was always busy!"

The restaurant did not close due to a lack of business, according to Business and Economic Development Chair Alyssa Knobel. She says the city is working with landlord Al Klairmont to attract a business that's right for the location.

"Does it have to be a restaurant? No," Knobel said.

And perhaps it won't be a restaurant. The city recently announced a Panera would be opening nearby, across the street from Michael's. Panera's menu offers an assortment of sandwiches, soups, salads and coffee similar to what Corner Bakery offered.

Knobel would love to see property owners work together and with the city's office of economic development to ensure businesses offering similar services, products or foods don't get rented space close to each other in town. It happened with cupcakes on Central Avenue, and did not end well.

"It would be great if our property owners work together," Knobel said. "If we have businesses go in and then go out in six months it hurts everybody."

Klairmont told Patch on Friday evening that the building has only had five operators since 1882, beginning with Brand Brothers Paint Store.

"What I'm looking for is a viable long-standing use," Klairmont said. 

The landlord said he is in talks with some restaurants and retailers, and is unsure when a deal will be made. Though Klairmont wouldn't comment on the type of restaurants he's in talks with, he said none of the them are similar to Corner Bakery.

So what do you think should replace the Corner Bakery? Should it be a similar restaurant? A different kind? A store? Take the poll and leave your comments below.

Editor's note: This article has been updated with quotes from landlord Al Klairmont and has been corrected from an earlier draft that mistakenly stated there was an issue between the landlord and tenant. Patch apologizes for the error.

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  • What should replace the Corner Baker at Central Avenue?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Another sandwich shop.
        7 (18%)
    • A different kind of restaurant.
        16 (43%)
    • Retail.
        9 (24%)
    • A bakery.
        5 (13%)
    Total votes: 37
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Corner Bakery, Small Business 2012, and Small Business Saturday

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Ed Brill

1:43 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Which is coming, on 2nd street across the parking lot from Michael's.

LORRA

6:49 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

I don't know the details of the "issue" between landlord and (former) tenant, AND... I can hardly imagine what would have been worth losing (another) business in Highland Park, on Central Ave., no less, and one that seemed to be thriving, for good reason. I'm pissed.

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TJ Wheeler

10:19 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

It all comes down to rent money with Imperial/Al Klairmont. I've done deals with him in the past. It's a prime corner location and Corner Bakery probably wanted lower rent and/or the same terms as the previous lease and Imperial probably knew the market value of the property and would not give into the demands of the tenant. I can only speculate on this. However, these big corporate chains (like Corner Bakery) probably did not want to take the increase and long-term lease that most landlords want now. Also consider the possibility that the landlord might be in negotiations with someone else and/or a letter of intent is already in the works. Normally landlords do not want to kick out tenants as they rely on rental income. So let's wait and see what happens.

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Judy

7:20 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

There seems to be a big problem when solid, thriving businesses can't stay alive in this town. How about an independent book store/cafe? Oh wait, Highland Park, which manages to house more banks and Starbucks per capita than any community should, can't seem to support a book store.

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TJ Wheeler

11:04 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Judy -- Not to mention Highland Park probably has more iPads, Kindles, Nooks and tablet computers per capita than any other community should too. Since the space is probably already fitted for a restaurant, it makes sense for it to attract another restaurant.

About 10 years ago I did a deal on Central St. in Evanston where I was representing the seller of a profitable coffee shop who had a long term lease on the property and they had an interested buyer -- not for the coffee shop, but for the leasehold because the location was so great with exposure, foot and vehicle traffic, train stop and local supporting residents.

It's very possible that Imperial knows how valuable this space is and has another tenant already lined up so they can get a premium on the lease that Corner Bakery was not able or willing to pay.

Bike riders 4 abreast weekend worriors

6:51 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

A donut shop. Then the cops could give out tickets with the least amount of effort on the part of the officers. We all know that the tickets issued in Highland Park end up in court on Greenleaf and the officers are paid overtime to sit there for hours no matter the outcome. When they retire the package they now receive is base on the average of all pay received. Police line up every season to jump on the Ravinia gravy train.

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Susan Merdinger

6:53 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

If there is an attempt being made to not let similar business establishments be in close proximity to each other, then why is Panera going across the street from Michael's? It would be better in the Corner Bakery location.? What space is it going to utilize- the Restoration Hardware location? That seems awfully big for a Panera.
My personal feeling is that our town does not do enough to help owners and tenants resolve their issues and keep business sustainable and profitable. What we, as residents, end up with is a "ghost town" of sorts. There are just too many vacancies, in my opinion. And restaurants that people really enjoy and patronize shouldn't be forced out of town- like Rosebud, too. It's going to give our town a bad reputation as a bad place to open a business, with the track record that we have. I don't think we need another home decor store, and with a Panera's coming to town, we probably do not need another soup and sandwich type of eatery. Perhaps a specialty gourmet food store, such as a Zabars or something- A place where you could pick up food and produce for dinner without having to visit a large supermarket.
However, if we are also going to lose Saks' Fifth Avenue, I think we might really be in need of a chain retail clothing store- I mean, we already lost Gap and Banana Republic, and I wouldn't mind having them back in town.

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Ed Brill

1:44 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Panera is going in to the space across the parking lot from Michael's, on the east side of the street. Personally I am excited about it even though it is similar to Potbelly or Michael's in some ways yet not in others.

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Ed Brill

1:45 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Also I am curious why you believe that Rosebud was "forced out of town."

Bike riders 4 abreast weekend worriors

6:54 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

The Imperial Team
Alfred Klairmont
President
In 1978 Alfred Klairmont joined Imperial Realty Company, a family business his father Larry Klairmont started in 1956. Today, Al oversees Imperial’s portfolio of more than 80 properties in the Chicagoland Metropolitan Area having over ten million square feet of commercial real estate. Under his leadership Imperial Realty has grown to become one of Chicago’s Largest Real Estate Firms. With an established reputation of integrity and forward thinking and with a long-term viewpoint, Al is hands-on in the process of finding, buying, rehabbing, leasing, managing and maintaining Imperial’s commercial properties. Most acquisitions were purchased as distressed properties and have been subsequently guided to success through rehabilitation and repositioning to meet the needs of the respective marketplaces. Al directs a staff of 30 professionals which includes legal, architectural, space planning, brokerage, leasing, management and maintenance expertise.
Al grew up in Chicago’s northern suburbs and still resides there with his wife of 27 years and has three children.

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gaen

7:32 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Panera is no Corner Bakery. Seems a problem here that HP thinks can replace one with other. I dont go to HP much even tho live here, but did go to Corner Bakery. Employees were nice. bookstore would be great. Enough restaurants for such small town, esp with Highwood so close.

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Alexa Raye

7:33 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Disagree! Panera Bread is AMAZING and much better than any Corner Bakery that I have been to. Can't wait until it opens!

N Sawle Knobloch

7:33 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Foodstuffs or place like Artisanal (in Wilmette) or 1/2 Price Books or Apple Store ... Business must be synergistic with surrounding businesses not just complimentary. The cupcake scenario was a good lesson learned.

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bonnie-ann hartwig

9:49 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Yes! I totally agree with you. Foodstuff or Artisanal are both fantastic options.
Also in that same area in Wilmette (where Artisanal is located) there is a little cafe/indoor play area for mom's and tot's called Growth Spurts - something like that would be FANTASTIC to have in town -winter is LONG here.
One more concern I have is...what will take over Saks Fifth Avenue? I would love to see a Trader Joe's or Whole Food Market (smaller version). We need another grocery store here in town besides Sunset and neither one of those would be a real source of competition, in fact would be a great enhancement to Sunset!

DLM054

7:54 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Personally, I'm happy Panera is coming to town. I'm sorry to see Corner Bakery go for the people who enjoyed eating there, I do think HP could support another restaurant at that location, if it didn't step on the toes of what we already have. Not sure a Foodstuffs type would be a good fit - Sunset offers similar options, continually evolving to customer requests and has (deservedly so) a loyal following. I think there's an untapped audience for moderate clothing.

But my first choice...... How about courting Athleta?

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mike belsky

8:32 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

There is a store similar to Noodles in Iowa City that is looking to franchise. This is in effect a fast food pasta restaraunt with different styles of pasta including Thai and Italian. I will pass the info on to the landlord.
Personally I think we should stay away from national chains as they make decisions remotely from the community in corporate headquarters as opposed to right here at home. For example- look at Borders relative to a store like Citywoods.
While I think the Alliance has done a great job marketing downtown I believe there needs to be a more focused effort on travelling to other successful downtowns in and around the Chicago area to recruit other independent businesses that will compliment as opposed to simply sell to an existing businesses customer base.
Having said this landlords need to be flexible and take a long term view.
Mike Beslky

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forest barbieri

8:35 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

It is always a shame when greed (math) gets in the way of solid business. Corner Bakery was a nice fit for both the location and city with a good revenue stream for the landlord. I can only suspect that they had a long term lease at lower than current market rates and the landlord wanted to push it up beyond a point that made sense for Corner Bakery. Panera will certainly fill the void as they are similar in nature and hopefully, they will hire some of the corner bakery staff.

As to Foodstuffs and Sunset, Foodstuffs is a specialty store that also needs a strong lunch crowd so the math would have to work. Sunset is in need of a remodel as their store is quite dated and they likely lose some buisness to Whole Foods in DF.

The cupcake issue was about competition and quality of product and most likely would have had the same results regardless of location.

At the end of the day, these issues are math problems.

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Walter (Tripp) Hainsfurther

8:53 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

We need to understand that there is a tug of war in suburban downtowns. To stand out against larger centers, downtowns need a strong component of local businesses instead of large chains. These businesses attract a clientel that is different, and having a local stake running them means a stronger committment to the community.

These types of tenants, however, don't pay the kind of rent, nor do they have the "credit worthiness" of national chains, which is what landlords seek. All one has to do is look at the opposite corner of the intersection. The owner of the former gap property had a letter of intent with a bank that was going to pay much higher rent than any other tenant. When the City took that option away, he stubbornly let the property sit vacant until he sold it to a local businessman. Now we have Uncle Dan's, a local merchant there.

We need more Uncle Dan's and Sunset Foods downtown and fewer Gaps and Dominick's.

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JessicaTPW

9:54 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

All I want, is a quality $7.99 turkey sandwich, quick. Not processed Panera, not waiting in line at the Sunset deli counter. I would love an independant sandwich shop, but the rent won't allow that.
**HP businessmen / will one of you have the guts to try a SEAFOOD restaurant there ? There is a great place in the city. Fish Bar, that would work great in HP.

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Maya

10:12 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Like the Noodles idea. We don't have any fast food itallian in downtown HP and there is definitely a market. Would need to have good salads for the lunch crowd.

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Ed Brill

1:44 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Moderno is starting to do a fast-food takeaway "Pranzo" at lunchtime this week at their front counter. The menu looks pretty darn good.

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Maya

1:50 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Ed. The High School kids will not go to Moderno. Moms with little kids won't either. That's not a substitute for a place like Noodles.

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Alexa Raye

7:35 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

How about a Convito Italiano type restaurant such as the one they have in Wilmette in Plaza Del Lago?

Linda Wallace

10:22 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

An Apple store; a mini WalMart or Target; mini Ace Hardware or Craftwood; Bob's Deli; Popeye's Chicken; and our beloved Garnett's.

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Rich M

9:39 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Apple store (I suppose), mini Wal-Mart (HELL no), mini Target (don't think these exist, but no), small Ace or Craftwood (been there done that on 2nd St), Bob's Deli (Bob won't do it), Popeye's (not gonna ever happen in downtown HP, but I would personally want it).

Here are some of the places I'd like to have in that Corner Bakery spot:
Al's #1 Italian Beef would be something I'd like to see, but I have my doubts HP will support it. Plus Al's franchises are really lacking in quality control.

I still want a frozen custard place. Yes, I know there are two gelato places, DQ, and Menchie's. But I like custard over all of them and there is nothing around here. One franchise that is a small operation that would fit nicely is Andy's Frozen Custard. They have a location on Church St in Evanston. It's pretty good, though not my favorite custard. They do really well in Evanston.

A true BBQ joint that actually smokes the meat with wood would be awesome. For some reason Real Urban will not use the real thing (they use a pellet smoker) and while many people like it (including myself) it's not REAL BBQ at all. They rely on the sauces to help with the smokeless, bland meat.

Stuart Senescu

11:54 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012

To paraphrase the owner featured in "Its a Wonderful Life", "serve hard liquor for people that want to get drunk!"

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Elaine Waxman

12:15 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

I sorely miss a book store in Highland Park and yes I have a Kindle and use the library

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Benny G.

9:42 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Elaine, the book store business is a loser- a non- starter. Do you have a computer?

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llwvrt

6:57 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I miss having a bookstore too! I loved having one in town. Than leaves B&N and a few small stores in surrounding suburbs.

Moe @ the Buck

12:30 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Oh Garnetts. Im remembering a time when my Ma would march me up there the week before school started to buy some stiff as a board, husky pair of jeans. It took almost the whole school year for them to break-in. If we're going there, how about Wolworths? Did I spell that correctly? I don't want to start an argument about how Moe from the Buck spelled "Wolworths". However, what's better than a place that you can get school supplies, a sandwich, fries, and a shake, and a goldfish in the same store.
I would love to see my new controversial place to be welcomed in to the community."Moes Gun Shop And Chicken Wings". A revolutionary new concept in fast food and sport shooting. Where you can come in and browse through a selection of handguns, long guns and accessories all while waiting for the best wings you've ever had, and no, not like Buffalo Wild Wings,cause we got guns. No touching any guns though after downing some of our famous wings. Oh, this isn't a gun control topic some let's try our best not to go in that direction. Thanks.

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Irritated HP

1:53 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

I was told by several of the workers at Corner Bakery that the landlord increased their rent to the point it was no longer fiscally reasonable to stay in the building.

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Samantha Stolberg

6:40 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Really? Have you not been to Once Upon a Bagel?

Andre'

3:26 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Saturation of restaurants is not a continued viable future, over the last number of
years, we have seen too many come-n-go. A well run, independent book store
with the double deck former Corner Bakery would certainly add a special image
to downtown.

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TJ Wheeler

6:39 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

I am still wondering who goes to bookstores now that we all have ipads, kindles, and what not.... yes, I agree there is still somewhat a demand for physical printed books (amazon.com still sells them...) but bookstores are turning more into "hangout spots" rather than actual stores -- and they are selling a lot more items than books.

I agree there are too many restaurants in the area, and I wonder if they are even that popular.

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llwvrt

6:59 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Book stores are still important - I have a kindle, a computer etc. but there is nothing like a book in hand. Reading a kindle to kids leaves a lot to be desired. I still maintain a library of BOOKS. I saved all of my Seuss books for my grandchildren. Some people do not do well with the electronic word and still like the touch, visual, and scent of a real book.

Moe @ the Buck

5:49 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012

Ah haa! I've got a great idea. Let's move in a small mom and pop shop bakery, call it"Bakery Corner" (get it, cause It's on the corner.dah) and maybe we won't skip a beat. We make it sort of like the deli at Sunset foods(cause I love the deli at Sunset foods, especially the lobster bisque that Arturo makes in the seafood department). Hey Ed Brill, are you talking about where the old Pennys diner, and Chris's food market use to be for Panera?

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Alexa Raye

7:38 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

I am very excited for Panera Bread to come to town! We have been going to Winnetka for our fix of their Tomato Soup in the Bread Bowl!
A Foodstuffs, Convito Italiano or some sort of gourmet take out with an eat in section would be terrific too. If we want clothing, we need to look at what has worked in Highland Park in the past.

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Bob Levi

8:18 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Points to ponder: In 1996 I opened a bookstore after doing extensive market research and business planning. It failed. Here's one reason. The year was when the Internet gained mass market appeal. In a survey of heavy internet users, respondents were asked what they had given up to go online extensively. TV was #1; reading was second! I'm sure those numbers have gotten worse with the advent of smartphones, tablets, etc. So those in favor of Corner Bakery becoming an independent bookstore need to rethink the idea.
In addition, a recent Tribune article on the restaurant business cited a trade organization who had done a survey and found restaurnant visits since 2007 are down one billion. Yep, that's billion with a "B." So does anyone wonder why restaurants are struggling and closing.or trying to reinvent themselves?
Many who have made suggesstions regarding the Corner Bakery site, may not have any experience with retail business ownership. My Dad owned a meat market in Hyde Park from 1930 to 1954. He only (!) worked 72 hour weeks and finally shut down. The reason was he had more customers outside of Hyde Park than walking in the store.
Retailing is a tough business, folks, Customers can be fickled and demanding. Just because one is a consumer doesn't mean they know how to run an independent retail busienss. Maybe that's why national chains can be successful and independents have a tough oo of it.

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Neesa Sweet

8:36 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

I too heard from the staff that Corner Bakery left because the rent was raised. If the rent was too high for a chain, then I doubt an independent business could be successful there.

I too am looking forward to Panera. Corner Bakery was a great place to go with clients where it was nice to sit and talk and there was internet. I'm so glad Panera is coming to fill that void. As for what we're missing in the restaurant department--there is no Greek restaurant since the one that was in Highwood closed.

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Benny G.

8:50 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Business goes out in HP because they are not making money. It is never due to a "lease issue."

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TJ Wheeler

10:29 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Or they would "lose money" if the rent was increased. It was probably an all-around corporate business decision. Sure, the store could make money, but it could be one of the least profitable stores of their chain and the rent being raised would just put more fuel in the fire. Also keep in mind that despite property tax assessed valuations generally going down due to the market, or governments still have to collect the same amount of money each year or face a deficit. So I'm sure the rent issue would only play a small part of this entire equation and what "corporate" tells the "employees" is not necessarily always what it seems. We do not have comment from anyone at Corner Bakery's PR department nor anything from Imperial. So all we can do is make assumptions in these comments.

Benny G.

9:43 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Oh, get ready for another BANK. The city council will approve it in a heart beat.

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Doug Purington

12:13 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Actually, no, Benny G. There is now a moratorium against any more banks in the pedestrian corridors.

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llwvrt

7:00 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

NO! No more banks please.

Walter (Tripp) Hainsfurther

10:08 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

I have several clients in the restaurant business, and they avoid areas like downtown Highland Park becasue there is not enough daytime traffic, especially in the middle of the week. They would much rather be in areas like Vernon Hills and Schumburg with a large number of office buildings.

I also wonder how Panera will support stores in Deerfield and Bannockburn. At some point, these poach off each other and become unsustainable.

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Alexa Raye

2:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

About 15 years ago, I asked the then owner of Cross Rhodes in Evanston to open in HP. It is a terrific little authentic Greek restaurant. His reply was along the lines of "you have to be nuts to open a restaurant in HP, unless you enjoy picky clientele who like to complain about their food".

Linda Wallace

10:36 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Well, if a regular Popeye's won't cut the mustard, how about an upscale one? This would be a fun idea -- fried chicken, red beans and rice, etc., in a nicely appointed atmosphere. It's a win-win for all, don't you think?

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Iris Morgan

10:52 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

My ultimte wish is for a good computer store that offers lessons as well as merchandise.

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TJ Wheeler

11:18 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

Apple Store in northbrook court? Also Brian at MACnician -- http://www.yelp.com/biz/macnician-highland-park

Hey maybe they can put in a bigger Starbucks since Port Clinton went out and the one on 2nd is CONSTANTLY packed. I need more coffee close to work when I am too lazy to make it myself at the office.

Oreo Pie

10:57 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

I like the idea of a Trader Joe's. How about a different kind of restaurant, like a Cuban restaurant?

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TJ Wheeler

11:15 am on Monday, November 5, 2012

There is already a TJ's in Northbrook. They would never put one this close in HP. Plus, it does not get enough traffic and parking would be ridiculous. It look TJ's 6 years to get into Evanston and I still do not think they are opened yet. Cuban restaurant will be nice... but I doubt that will happen.

According to the article, Alyssa Knobel said they are working with the landlord to get a business that is right for the location. Maybe there is already something in the works.

Walter (Tripp) Hainsfurther

12:12 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

So, since we are so realistic about what could or should go on this corner, let me make a couple of observations. The space is small. My guess is leass than 4,000 square feet, so you will not get a Trader Joe's or major grocery chain going in there. It's smaller than the average convenience store and laid out poorly.

While some of you may yearn for "comfort food", such as Popeyes, suburban locations are not high priority for these kind of chains. Besides, how would they survive without a drive-thru?

I'll return to my original premise a few posts back, you need to look at what makes suburban downtowns successfull. Local merchants with a high level of knowledge of the community and service. The challenge is getting Landlords (not just this one) to understand that means a different rent structure.

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TJ Wheeler

1:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Big chain or local merchant are not going to really change the fact that most landlords know what they are able to charge in their rent and leave little room for negotiation when they are at their bottom. While we do need the landlords to help in building the community -- it's not going to change their rent structure for a particular building. They usually know their bottom $ PSF rental rate going into a negotiation. There are sometimes concessions on both the landlord and tenant sides ... will the landlord have to contribute to the build-out or will the tenant cover those costs? Who will pay taxes? Who will pay for cleaning, trash removal, exterior issues, tenant-installed equipment, etc...

I'm reviewing a lease right now and we have to negotiate everything from the build-out costs to the renewal options for years 3 6 and 9 should our client wish to renew the lease after investing heavily into the build.

Landlords want long term tenants with little problems and little maintenance. Tenants sometimes have big problems that require big maintenance and do not want to cover such costs. There has to be a balance.

Ed Brill

12:58 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I stopped by Moderno today for lunch, and they have changed format for lunch (only) - "Moderno Pranzo" - it is now counter service, salads, panini, sandwiches. So, basically, Corner Bakery but with better food :-)

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Benny G.

1:53 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Moderno will go the way of Rosebud in less that a year. There is not enough locals who will go there and people from "neighboring" towns will not come because no one wants to drive down Green Bay Road or Sheridan Road OR trek West to 41 THEN trek East into HP to dine. These places are ghost shadows for retailers. Think about it, the only retailers that survive are patronized by locals. No exceptions.

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TJ Wheeler

2:00 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

They are all scared of the HP drivers... I don't blame them....

Many of us trek to Evanston for good food when we are tired of the local flavor in Highwood and HP and don't want to drive the 20+ miles all the way into the city.

Benny G.

1:58 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I find many of these comments comical. First of all the owner could care LESS about the type of business that goes into the space- as long as they pay the freight and are allowed, they get the lease. Secondly, while there maybe a "moratorium" on banks, the word moratorium speaks volumes. If "someone knows someone else," get ready for an ATM in the pedestrian walkway. Banks get patronized by locals- that's why they survive. Yes, it is a smallish space that you have to "walk up to"...not exactly a retailers dream...Maybe the Christian Reading Room needs some expansion space.

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Alexa Raye

2:08 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Foodstuffs would be great. They have a great salad/sandwich bar. The one in Glencoe is always packed at lunch time.

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Wendi Sloane

6:56 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Noodles and Company would be a great choice. It's family friendly, has takeout and there is nothing like it in downtown HP.

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Stacey

11:38 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Argo Tea!!! Argo Tea!!! Argo Tea!!!

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Alice Riley

2:52 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

nice English like Pub to get a decent pint

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TJ Wheeler

3:17 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Yes, fantastic mate! One that serves a full 4000 calorie full English breakfasts with Black Pudding, Fish & Chips over Pints during lunch, and some Bangers and Mash over more drinks for dinner -- maybe even a little store where I can buy real back bacon and other English foods. The Pace bus stop is a block away on Green Bay so I can stumble home at 11pm when they close. (Wait, our Pace bus service stops around 7pm and cabs are hard to find in HP, so I guess I have to walk -- just like my college years in London)

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MS

4:00 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Seriously awesome idea. You should open it! In any case as long as we have a rent and tax paying business in that spot that's all that really matters. Our fair city does too much to discourage such income producing activities.

Daniel

3:45 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Panera is not going in on 2nd street. Space is too small and there is still a for rent sign in window. Maybe a food stamp office should go in after the election results yesterday.

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Alice Riley

4:03 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Daniel,
Sounds like a pub might work for you so you have a place to drown your sorrows over the election and commiserate with like minded patrons or have a lively discussion with those that don't share your sentiments...

Alice Riley

4:00 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

TJ Don't quite know if you are in favor or are being sarcastic? I haven't been in college for a number of years but I am not too old enough to enjoy a local area pub and hope it will be years before I am.. In Europe pubs are the community center where all ages come together and in case you haven't been to London in awhile, Pubs now offer healthier fare as well.

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TJ Wheeler

5:19 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

I am completely in favor! The best English breakfast I've had on the Northshore is Celtic Knot (Evanston) and that's not even English. However the previous posts I have in this thread make it unlikely -- the process to get an alcohol establishment setup in highland park, with all the red tape and contingencies with the landlord, etc.... it will take months -- maybe even over a year -- to get it planned out. So maybe someone will see this post and start planning it. :)

Daniel

4:06 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Will you join me Alice? Actually no sorrows at all, not a big fan of either political party. doesn't seem to matter who is in power .

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Alice Riley

4:48 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Daniel,
Will give it some thought if the pub becomes reality..... Keep your chin up, things could be worse.

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Daniel

9:21 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

My chin is up. Thanks for thinking about it. New Pub would be nice.

Alice Riley

5:55 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Let's hope someone will be willing to go through all the red tape and hurdles so we can all enjoy a neighborhood meeting place and a good pint too... I think it would be a great addition to HP.

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Molly

6:31 am on Monday, November 19, 2012

What about he Solo Cup space, what's going in there? Our town needs some large tax infusion money and employers. A corporate/manufacturing mix is needed rather than yet another yoga/nail/bank/fast food store front. What is our Council doing to attract non-retail businesses?

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MH

10:25 pm on Friday, January 25, 2013

Where do you go for a button? Needle & thread? Pair of pants? Tie? Underwear? Socks? A blanket?
Wouldn't it be nice if you could go uptown like we use to be able to and get that all in one store? How about that? Maybe we should try and keep it simple?
Moe? You are too young to remember Garnett's!

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