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Partnership not Negotiations Needed

District 112 has begun to negotiate a new contract with its teachers. I have a feeling that it is going to be a very tough process.

When I'm not being a participant citizen in Highland Park, I'm Director of Technology at North shore Country Day Schol in Winnetka, so I'm not so much protecher as I am a teacher. I understand just how much of your being goes into your job. I, like nearly every teacher I know, became a teacher not to get rich, but because of the satisification I get from working with students. Of course, I also don't know anyone who went into education who also wanted to take a vow of poverty. This shouldn't be a problem as there is a middle between rich and poverty and that's the middle that our board of education and the teacher's union will be negotiating over.

The problem, as shown by the cuts in personnel that 112 has been experiencing for the last few years, is that there just isn't a lot of money out there to be had. Times are tough and the cost of living in Highland Park is high. Every property owner in Highland Park knows that. The question is do our (award winning) teachers really understand that?

I don't know, but if they don't, I lay the blame at the feet of our elected school board. I can say this because we have a model in our community of a different way. There is no union in District 113 and I can't remember the last time I heard a story of 113 teachers even thinking of forming a union. There also hasn't been the kind of massive cuts to programs in the last couple of years that 112 has experienced. And the presence of Deerfield in District 113 can't be the answer, as their incredibly contentious negotiations in 109, their K-8 district, last year showed. While I have written critically about 113 before, clearly when it comes to labor practices they have to be doing something right.

So what is it that they're doing right? I think part of the answer is that they are in partnership with their teachers. Teachers literally have a seat at the board table along with district administrators. There is a shared sense of commitment by the board, by administrators, and by the teachers to doing what is best. I'm not saying that it's utopia, but it does seem to work.

Hopefully, these negotiations will end well and teachers will be rewarded for the quality of education that they provide, and the board will perform their duty of representing the interests of the citizenry of the residents of District 112. I also know that the time that the Board should start working on the next contract isn't at the end of a contract. It's at the beginning. When there is a shared goal, and I'd hope that the teachers, administration, and board all share the goal of providing a world class education to our students, there can be partnership.

But a partnership needs trust and I think it's fair to expect our board to be the ones to create that sense of trust. I hope they take concrete steps to create that sense of trust. We must have both quality education and be a community that people can afford to live here to take advantage of that quality education.

David Greenberg

4:20 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

The average salary at D113 is what, $100K/yr. You don't need to be in a Union to realize that going on strike would be killing the proverbial goose.

As for D112 - now's the time to fix the shortcomings in the current contract.

* No more guaranteed Step or Lane-change Raises en masse for all. Set aside a pool of available funds, and those who demonstrate that they've met or exceeded their measurable targets will be considered for a raise. Not everyone considered will receive one, some will receive more than others.... just like in the business-world.

* No payments for serving on or chairing a Committee. If you're appointed to a committee by your supervisor, you serve on the committee w/o extra pay. Just like in the business-world.

* No more accumulating of sick-days. If memory serves, the maximum that can be accumulated is something like 180 or 280 (it's been a few years since I read that contract). Use it or lose it - every year - just like in the business-world.

* No more payments for taking classes. You want to take a class to keep your skills sharp? That's wonderful. That's professional. But just like in the business-world, we don't have to pay for it.

* No vehicle allowances. Use your own vehicle, keep track of the mileage. We'll reimburse you. If we don't, then keep track and deduct from your taxes.

* Cut the health- and dental-care allowances by the District. Let the employees pay 80+% of their own insurance costs.

* Cap salaries.

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David Greenberg

4:23 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

Finally, as the salary goes up, the District's contribution to the pension should drop. Example: If the salary is $50K/yr, we make 100% of the teacher's pension contribution (9%). As their salary goes up, our contribution should go down until it reaches zero percent (0%) at which point the employee would be funding their own pension...

John Russillo

6:47 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012

Why would the "presence of Deerfield in District 113" have anything to do with the relationship between the 113 Board and 113 teachers, which are totally separate from the 109 Board and teachers? Is there some sort of poison in Deerfield that I don't know about? I wish the 112 teachers well. As has been seen in Deerfield and Chicago, teachers are being squeezed from all sides while management gets fat. I hope they stand strong and fight.

I agree that 113 has done something right in working together to create harmony in the workforce. I just hope the teachers are happy with the 0% and 0.85% raises they have "negotiated." As was said many times in the 109 negotiations, the way to break the union is to treat them fairly.

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Mark Stein

1:12 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Teacher's do not receive social security. The only retirement income that they receive is from their pension and any investments that they have made. The minimum amount of the pension cost that the District pays is set by state law. Mr. Greenberg's ideas with respect to pensions are simply illegal.

Teachers in District 112 who travel between buildings do use their own vehicles. They do not receive a car allowance.

State law provides a minimum number of sick days and requires that they may be accumulated from year to year. Unused days can be used for retirement purposes.

District 112 teachers are not reimbursed for taking classes if they use those classes to qualify for lane movement.

Teachers are reimbursed when they take classes to keep up with advances in the areas in which they teach. These are graduate level classes which are very expensive.

Now that District 113 has instituted a two tier pay schedule, it will be interesting to see what happens as the old guard is eventually outnumbered by the new employees. Perhaps the days when District 113 teachers aren't organized will end.

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John Russillo

8:00 am on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Mark, those are just Dave's generic talking points regarding education finance. He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good story.

Dave, I encourage you to educate yourself with the actuals issues of the district. This is your home district so there is no excuse for not knowing the facts. These people are fighting for their professional livelihood. Don't disrespect them by spouting generic talking points. Get to know them and their issues before you form your opinions.

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David Greenberg

2:28 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

I fully understand that teachers don't participate in Soc. Sec. and they're in TRS instead. What I've recommended may be contrary to State Law as it's written now, but certainly as the entire State struggles to figure out a way to move forward from this pension mess, the State Law could be changed.

Same with sick days. If more people knew just what numbers of sick days were being accumulated, they'd probably get sick themselves.

As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter to me whether the classes qualify them for lane movement, or they're just 'keeping up with advances'. If someone wants to take a class to remain 'sharp', they can certainly do so at their own expense. They're claiming to be professionals, so let them fund their own continuing education as necessary.

There's only so much one can detail in these limited comment boxes, if someone feels disrespected as a result, that's certainly unfortunate on their part, but honestly - the TAXPAYERS are feeling pretty disrespected with the way things are right now, and it has to change.

As for knowing the actual issues of the District - yes John, I do know them. And I even served on a committee made up of community members to review and explore financial aspects of the District....

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John Russillo

2:32 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Great. Then I look forward to you articluating them.

David Greenberg

2:47 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Items from the D112 Contract:

* If you elect not to join the Union, you get 'fair share dues' deducted from your pay despite your wishes.

* D112 pays to print copies of the contract

* Whenever a new teacher is hired, D112 has to notify the Union.

* Teachers only work 182 days in a school year. This can be extended by mutual agreement by paying 1/182nd of the teacher's salary.

* School year is 187 days (176 student attendance days, 2 inservice days, 4 parent conference days (elementary), one conf/inservice day (middle school), 5 emergency days). Unused emergency days don't become workdays. 1/2 days for "records day"

* No teacher shall be required to serve as an internal substitute for another teacher, except on a voluntary basis. If they volunteer - they get $35/hr.

* Traveling teachers shall not be assigned to more than 2 buildings (with some limited exceptions). Traveling teachers shall be reimbursed for mileage.

* D112 shall provide teachers to receive annual flu shots, Hep B or other OSHA required immunizations... Administered in the District w/no cost to the teacher.

* Teachers shall have full knowledge of all formal observations made for the purpose of evaluation...

* Professional Growth and Evaluation Committee, Joint Advisory Committee, District Climate Committee, Professional Advisory Council, Pres. of Teacher's Association Committee

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David Greenberg

2:55 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

8.1 Professional Growth:(A) (1) 6 out of any 15 sem. hr credits earned and applied to movement on the salary schedule may be earned through inservice courses approved in advance by the Superintendent.

(2) All graduate credits, CPDUs, or CEUs earned through accredited colleges or universities, or through district approved inservice programs or workshops may, at the teacher's choice, either be applied to advancement on the existing salary schedule or reimbursed through a one-time payment of $300/sem. hr (or cost if lower) with a max of $1200/year available to EACH employee in a single year (July 1 thru June 30). All courses a minimum of 3 sem hrs, unless otherwise approved.

(3) A sem hr of credit for inservice programs shall be defined as 15 hrs of class work or its equivalent. The value assigned to each inservice course shall be stipulated at the time of approval.

(B) Discusses eligibility.

8.1(D) Rate of compensation: Fully participating members of curriculum committees shall be compensated at the rate of $30/hr for any hrs beyond the 25 hr limit during the school year or for any hours during the summer vacation. The chairperson of a curriculum committee...shall be compensated at the rate of $60/hr at any time during the school year or during the summer.

(E) Required Courses/workshops: When required to take a specific course/workshop for which tuition/fees are charged, same will be paid by the District subject to successful completion of the workshop.

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David Greenberg

3:03 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

* Reduction in force procedures. Longest tenured terminated last.

* Recall rights - 1 calendar year.

* Insurance - if removed for reduction in force, they can maintain their insurance at their cost for up to 18 months (yes, I know - COBRA).

* Student teachers: Acceptance of student teacher supervision and/or observers shall be voluntary.

* Staff benefits re: student teachers: Any incentive provided by a college or university for the supervision of a student teacher shall be given to the supervising teachers.

* Hiring of staff: Before interviewing candidates, a principal shall seek input from current staff/teams in respect to desired qualities and strengths.

* Retirement: Age 55+, 10+ yrs of service with D112 (or combining districts pre-112), only if the Board doesn't have to pay an ERO penalty to TRS, must not have received certain increases, etc. etc...

* Salary Enhancement Payments and Lump Sum Post Retirement Payment: Eligible teachers may elect a 1 yr notice of retirement/resignation to be followed by a 6% increase in base salary or a 2 yr notice of retirement/resignation to be followed by a 6% increase in each of the final 2 years as compared to the prior year's base salary or a 3 yr notice of r/r to be followed by a 6% increase in each of the final 3 years... or a 4 yr notice... Teachers eligible for ERO shall not receive this payment

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David Greenberg

3:12 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

* Lump Sum Post Retirement Payment: Eligible teachers shall also be entitled to a lump sum post-retirement severance payment of $15,000 to be paid by July 30 after the effective date of retirement. Teachers eligible for ERO shall not receive this payment.

* Greivances: Level 1, Level 2, Level 3

* Sick Leave:Each teacher shall be entitled to a total of 15 sick days w/full pay per school term. Such sick leave shall accumulate to a maximum of 390 days (provided the allotment of 15 days shall be used before reducing the total accumulation of 390 days. A sep. record will be kept of sick leave above the 390 days in the event of future value or use as may be agreed).

Sick leave is personal illness, serious illness, death in immediate family/household, birth, adoption or placement for adoption. The District may require certification as a basis for pay during leave after an absence of 3 days for personal illness, etc. If the District requires a certificate, the District shall pay the expenses incurred by the teacher in obtaining the certificate.

After current and accumulative sick leave has been used, the teacher shall be granted a further emergency sick leave up to 50 days at full pay for catastrophic illness or injury. The days used may not be replaced or replenished. However each teacher upon reaching 340 accumulated unused sick leave days shall have the emergency sick leave days decreased in number for each day the teacher accumulates unused sick days above 340..

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David Greenberg

3:19 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

* Bereavement Leave: 5 days per school year, not deducted from sick leave.

* Personal Leave: 3 days each school year for personal or business use matters that can not reasonably be scheduled outside work hours. Unused personal leave for such purposes shall be cumulative to a maximum of 4 days. Unused personal leave days shall be ADDED to accumulated sick leave days each year after the stated limit is reached. All unused personal days will carry over each year until the limit of 4 days is reached...

* Battery Against Teachers w/in Scope of Employment: Work time lost by a teacher because of a battery shall result in no loss of salary or accumulated sick leave for a period not to exceed 20 days.

* Sabbatical Leave: Full time teacher, who's served in District for at least 6 years. Available to all teachers. Length one semester or one full year. Allowance to teacher on sabbatical leave is 50% of the teachers salary as if in actual service, or the minimum salary as described in the School Code, whichever is greater. Retain all rights of tenure, progression, pension rights. District continues to pay the teacher's group insurance premiums and other benefits, including all TRS contributions as if in actual service.

* Unpaid leaves of absence: Parental leave. Disability leave (available after exhausting sick leave).

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David Greenberg

3:28 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

* Insurance: The District pays 100% of the premiums for a $75,000 term life insurance, individual dental insurance coverage, and individual health insurance coverage. District contributes 25% of premiums toward Family PPO health insurance coverage. Those opting out of health insurance coverage get a $100 payment in any year for which they opt out.

* Part time teachers under 50% employment don't get insurance, those at 50% or more get the full contribution.

* Salary payment: Teachers can choose to receive 12 payments or 10 payments.

* Early Pay option: Teachers electing the 12 payment option can elect to receive his/her July and August paychecks on the final pay day in June by applying in writing by March 1st.

* Extra Duty Stipends: Interscholastic/intramural activities, clubs, supervisory or instructional duties outside the regular school day, during scheduled lunch periods, planning times, or when teachers are not carrying out their normal duties and responsibilities.

- Bus duty, hall duty, interscholastic, lunchroom, safety patrol, school-wide saturday detention, after school study hall: $28/hr

- Non-instructional activities have a whole set of stipends and longevity awards which range from $803 for 20-34 hrs, to $2814 for 141 hrs. And longevity from $104 to $366 for the corresponding hours.

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David Greenberg

3:35 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

* Instructional Support Staff: New teacher mentor $1022 base pay. with increases "per mentee" for years 1, 2, 3, and 4

* District mentor: Base pay $3066

* Middle School team leader: base pay $1226

Add 2.55% to these amounts for the 2011/2012 year.

* Salary Schedule:

Depends on degree. BA, BA+9 hrs, BA+18 hrs, BA+27 hrs, MA, MA+9 hrs, MA+18 hrs, MA+27 hrs, MA+35 hrs, MA+42 hrs, MA+45 hrs. Ranges from $41149 (BA) to $107345 (MA+45)

Longevity amounts can increase the salary amounts.

Mark Stein

3:39 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Mr. Greenberg, your position seems to be that any benefits that teacher's receive are inherently too much. You even listed a contract provision that simply parrots federal law by allowing a teacher to stay on the health insurance plan under Cobra.

There's simply nothing to debate here.

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David Greenberg

3:46 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

I merely listed the ability to stay on the health insurance plan under COBRA as a benefit. Since the teacher is paying for that, I've got no problem with it.

As for the other contract provisions, as I've publicly stated in front of the D112 board previously, YES, some of the benefits are inherently too much.

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David Greenberg

3:47 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Here's the statement I made in 2010:

Members of the District 112 Board:

We all value education. I am alum of Elm Place School and found the experience to be a good preparation for attending Highland Park High School. However, I come before you this evening because the overall tax burden in Highland Park is too onerous. The two school districts (112 and 113) serving our community are responsible for approximately 67% of our tax bill. A tax bill which has continued to go up year-after-year - with no apparent end in sight.

The economic situation is dire - people all across the country are unemployed or underemployed. The housing market has taken a nosedive, and foreclosures are at record highs. And Highland Park has not escaped the wrath of the economic beast either.

I've spoken with many of my friends and neighbors - some of whom have lived in Highland Park for upwards of 30 or 40 years, and they would like to sell their homes because the ever-growing tax bill is putting enormous financial pressure on them. Some have kids in the District, some don't.

Simply selling one's home in this market isn't possible, so some are considering simply walking away from their beloved home and neighborhood of 30+ years because of an overpowering tax burden which you have a substantial amount of control over.

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David Greenberg

3:48 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

The argument used to be made that "good schools attract people to the community", and that may indeed have been the case when the economy was booming, but in the middle of a Great Recession to rival the Great Depression, people are staying away from this community. Realtors will tell you that potential buyers are excited about the prospective home - until they see the tax bill - then they say "Nope, no thanks."

Businesses looking to cut costs are moving away. Those who want to keep their costs as low as possible don't want to relocate here, or they try to finagle some sweetheart deal to cut their tax bill - while shifting their burden to the rest of the taxpayers.

In short - the excessive, practically confiscatory tax rate is destroying our community.

To resolve this issue - you absolutely MUST cut your budget. You've done some work and are to be commended for it - but you still have much to do.

Cut the salaries. Cut the benefits. I've reviewed the information on your website:

 Contracts for the teachers,
 Salaries for the administrators.

all of it is way out of line, and entirely too high.

Keeping in mind that a School District makes NO money, but simply taxes and spends OUR money:

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David Greenberg

3:49 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

 I am outraged that our Superintendent makes approximately $292,000 per year as a base salary, and on top of that is given a mileage allowance of several thousand dollars. Why not keep track of the business mileage and deduct it from your taxes like the rest of us? Can't we find someone who could do the job for less? Much, much less? When the Superintendent's contract comes up for renewal - we need to say "I'm sorry, but we can't afford you any longer" and find a replacement.

 I'm astonished that many administrators and teachers make over $100,000 per year.

 And I'm flat out angry at the gold-plated benefits and retirement packages that the Board has granted.

Starting now, and going forward - taxes need to decrease. I, and my neighbors, simply refuse to lose our homes because you and other taxing bodies are out of control and unable to stand up to the Unions that live in fantasy land.

Here's some of my suggestions:

 If it's not required by law that the District fund the THIS contribution for teachers - then the teachers need to make their own THIS contribution via paycheck deductions.

 If it's not required by law that the District fund the TRS contribution for teachers - then the teachers need to make their own TRS contribution via paycheck deductions.

 If someone decides not to participate in a medical and/or dental plan offered by the District - then they should NOT receive any amount as cash compensation.

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David Greenberg

3:49 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

 There should absolutely NOT be any more free insurance coverage - the employee and his/her family should fund no less than 90% of the cost of such coverage. No more free immunizations - employees can and should pay for them on their own - they can go to Walgreen's like the rest of us. No more free wellness screenings - if the employee wants it - then they can pay for it.

 No more accumulating and cashing out of sick days, paid days off, holidays, personal days, vacation days, or whatever you want to call it. The amount of possible accumulation at 290 or 390 days is obscene. The District needs to offer a maximum of 20 days for personal or sick time, and move immediately to a "use it or lose it" model - just like employees in Corporate America have.

 No more "emergency sick leave" time - if you run out of sick days, then that's it - no more.

 No more "salary enhancement payments" when someone's going to retire. No more LUMP SUM Post Retirement payments of $15,000, in fact, NO SEVERANCE PAYMENTS at all.

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David Greenberg

3:50 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

 No more extra pay for things like "In-service meetings/training". They're already getting a salary - so there shouldn't be any reason to pay someone $40.00/hour on top of their salary. No more "Extra Duty Compensation" - that we pay someone a MINIMUM of $25.00/hour for lunch room duty or some extra-curricular activity on top of their salary is unjustified. That we pay them an additional 1% (or any percent) for "Outdoor Education" is ludicrous as well. In case this is unclear, no more extra duty stipends at all.

 No more bonuses. No more "merit pay". Bonuses are intended to induce employees to stay in times of low unemployment. In this period of high unemployment, there's plenty of candidates available to take the job if someone isn't happy with it.

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David Greenberg

3:51 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

 No more automatic raises whether they are for getting "graduate credits", built into a contract, or otherwise: That the salaries are going up 4.25% is simply ridiculous. Lake County employees are on their 2nd year of going without raises, State employees all over the country are being forced to take furlough days, and if anyone got any kind of a raise it was in the 1 to 2% range. So how can it be justified to give everyone a 4.25% raise just because they're continuing to come to work? The short answer is that it can't. Again, the District needs to move to a model similar to that used by Corporate America - create a pool of available dollars for salaries, and give raises to those who have performed above and beyond - when the pool is dry, there's no more raises. Anyone doesn't like it - they're welcome to leave the District… there's plenty of candidates.

 No "Early Pay Options" - you get your paycheck when it's due, not early just because it's summer break. Why should the District give up any potential interest earnings on those funds?

 No "Compensatory Time".

 No "Internal Subsitution" payments at any amount, and especially not $30.00 or $35.00/hour. In the real world, if you have an employee out sick - the remaining employees get to pick up the slack - there's no extra payments made.

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David Greenberg

3:51 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012

 No more "Professional Growth" or University Course payments or reimbursements: You're a professional - so fund this yourself. Keep track of it and deduct from your taxes as possible - just like the rest of us do.

 No more extra payments for serving on a committee. That we pay a chairperson or presenter on a committee $60.00/hour is ridiculous. In the real world - you serve on a committee as part of your job when your employer appoints you to do so - you don't get paid more for it.

 No tenure: This is an elementary school system, not a University where professors may be desirous of teaching controversial subjects, or espousing unpopular viewpoints. Few, if any employees, in any company have any sort of contract or guaranteed employment. If we need to reduce the number of teachers - that should be our decision - and not restricted by some contract.

 No more sabbaticals at 50% pay while we pay all their other benefits. In fact, no more sabbaticals at all.

If you want to guarantee a source of funding for District 112, then you are going to have to make very large cuts to everything in your budget. Nothing should be sacrosanct. Our homes, and by extension - the District is riding on those decisions.

Thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening.

John Russillo

8:25 am on Friday, August 17, 2012

Um, OK. So eliminate all teacher benefits and protections. Sounds like a plan!

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David Greenberg

12:06 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Continue the 100% funding of insurance for the teacher, and high percentages for the families of the teachers: NO.

Totally eliminate certain benefits: Yes.

Curtail or cut back other benefits: Yes.

Get rid of tenure for elementary and high school teachers: Yes. Tenure is designed to allow University Professors to teach controversial topics w/o fear of being fired. Praytell, what specifically is controversial about elementary and high school subjects that tenure is required?

All tenure does is restrict the ability of the District to manage its workforce as it sees fit.

In the private sector: You get hired for a job, you do that job and "other duties and responsibilities as assigned by supervisor". You work during lunch at times. You get assigned to committees without extra pay. You do what it takes to get the job done for the salary you're given. You don't get to carry over vacation/sick days, etc.

Why should that be any different in the Public Sector?

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John Russillo

1:01 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Well if you can get the union to agree to those things, then go for it. But you DO need union agreement, you understand that, right? The title of this column is "Partnership Not Negotiations Needed". And he's absolutely correct. You want a world class school system? You treat your teachers as valued team members. If they agree to sign up to your reforms, then great.

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David Greenberg

4:52 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"Well if you can get the union to agree to those things, then go for it. But you DO need union agreement, you understand that, right?" - I understand that it'd be very NICE to have Union agreement as that precludes many other issues, but it's not required. There's 60,000 certified candidates in the pipeline according to the ISBE, certainly some of those would be qualified and willing to teach at the terms offered, even if the Union chose not to.

Once a upon a time, Unions served to swing the pendulum back toward worker's rights. Unfortunately, in my opinion, they've swung the pendulum too far in that direction and in the case of public sector unions, the taxpayers suffer for it. It's time to swing the pendulum back a bit so we have reasonable salaries and benefits.

Again, in my opinion, what's out there now is too much and needs to be scaled back.

No one's claiming that our teachers aren't "valued team members", but lots of businesses (public and private) operate without contracts in place for their employees, and there's no reason why the Elementary and High School Districts can't do so as well.

John Russillo

5:15 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Well thank God your opinion means very little in this case. If we can't get 'em to agree just fire 'em and hire new teachers. Yes that is certainly a great way to partner with the teachers and community. Your views are exactly why we need unions in the first place. Let's hope the 112 board doesn't share your extreme opinions. Yes, David, you will need union agreement in this case, which is the real world. Maybe you haven't noticed but private enterprise has unions too. The best ones know how to make it work.

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David Greenberg

6:02 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

"If we can't get 'em to agree just fire 'em and hire new teachers. Yes that is certainly a great way to partner with the teachers and community."

I'm not saying our offer would be unfair-they'd be fairly compensated. But if they want more than what we're willing to pay, that's unfortunate, and they're free to seek employment elsewhere.

This isn't a for-profit enterprise where we "partner" with the employees, and share in increased returns. This is a public enterprise which consumes tax dollars and educates our children and does not make a financial profit (yeah, we all profit by well-educated children, but that's not the point)-we want the best value for our tax dollars and I happen to believe that overcompensating teachers or administrators doesn't give us that value.

As for your claim that my opinions are somehow extreme, I find myself in good company with President. Franklin D. Roosevelt who said, in part, "... Meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the government.All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations ..."

Fortunately the 1935 NLRA excluded Federal, State and Local employees. Unfortunately, those conniving NY State politicians in 1958 decided to allow civil employees via executive order, and here we are.

Walter White

5:21 pm on Friday, August 17, 2012

Make sure you put the guns in the hands of the teachers AFTER the negotiations are over, Dave!. LOL!

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